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i open this thread since i know many sifu around zth had done this, so i need experience on doing this, pls,all sifu pls share and help:adore::adore::adore:....

i currently bought 1 set of evo 5 brembo brake, front and rear.... but sadly, with rotor,calipers and rear brake hose only......my car condition is, full evo 4 front parts, rear with evo 3 (4wd)..... 5x114.3 all 4 wheels

my problem and question

1.) handbrake cable can just use evo 4 or my ori wira ?

2.) can brake hose use back mine?

3.) how to fit in all the four brakes? i know front should be easy since e4 and e5 not that much different, but what a bout rear brake since it is e3? just custom a new bracket is enough??:hmmmm:

i need help pls:bawling::adore::adore:
 

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any sifu can help?
 

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bro... ur ride sounds familiar.. use to send to JC? hahaha...
 

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bro... ur ride sounds familiar.. use to send to JC? hahaha...
no bro, i am at sarawak..... i really need some clear explanation on how to do it:adore::adore:
 

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bro..already pmed u..i think i hv an answer for yr no.3 question..its true,u need to custom a new bracket for the rear brembo..for the front shud b pnp edy..
 

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Peter, if you are using Evo3 rear brakes and plan to fit the rear Evo5 brembo twin pot then you need the whole knuckle for the Evo5 together with the rear rotors. This is because the rear brembo caliper do not have handbrake function!!. The hand brake is build into the rotor hub in the Evo5 onwards. This is well beyond just a bracket... unless you don't need handbrakes :)
 
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Peter, if you are using Evo3 rear brakes and plan to fit the rear Evo5 brembo twin pot then you need the whole knuckle for the Evo5 together with the rear rotors. This is because the rear brembo caliper do not have handbrake function!!. The hand brake is build into the rotor hub in the Evo5 onwards. This is well beyond just a bracket... unless you don't need handbrakes :)
Mitsu4G , pls clearify is this true?


i got the e4 rear knucle too:biggrin::biggrin: disc hub 2 in 1 like u mentioned:biggrin::biggrin:

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Peter, if you are using Evo3 rear brakes and plan to fit the rear Evo5 brembo twin pot then you need the whole knuckle for the Evo5 together with the rear rotors. This is because the rear brembo caliper do not have handbrake function!!. The hand brake is build into the rotor hub in the Evo5 onwards. This is well beyond just a bracket... unless you don't need handbrakes :)
i found something, mitsu4g mod brembo to his lancer ck by using fto rear arm, fto rear arm and knuckle only got disc but no drum, and yet can mod brembo, i think the brembo suppose to have handbrake function:hmmmm:
 

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anyo:hmmmm:ne?
 

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Q1--this situation ur need try n error 1st, bcoz u need to measure hnd brake cabel not too long or short from hnd brake to brake drum.

Q2--yes ur can used back the old 1 but for safety and life span should replace a new 1 ..eg:steel braided hose.

Q3--from ur mention, u have complete rear rotor from e4......mean ur have drum brake inside ur disc is it.....if like that u only plug and play ur e5 rear brembo on e4 rotor....i attach some pic e4 conv rear e5 brembo..
 

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wut viper5965 mention is true..but peterj rear 4wd system was from evo3 right?yes he can pnp those e5 rear brembo brake directly to rear rotor from e4, i think need to 'kacuk' rear e4 knuckle with rear e3 knuckle,or maybe jez need to change it(honestly,i dun hv any experiences on dis)..then only can fit, if not then jez like AlucarD says..hv to use everythng from the e4,arms,knuckle,hub,etc..which is out of the story for peterj..
 
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i think i can take the drum and mod to e3 rear,try 1st.....

i use steel braided hose all 4 wheel dy,that is y i wanna use back .....
 

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i will.... pray for me that i can successful mod the rear brake from e4 to my e3 rear and my rim can clear the brembo....
 

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i think i can take the drum and mod to e3 rear,try 1st.....

i use steel braided hose all 4 wheel dy,that is y i wanna use back .....
Peter, you may have problems with the rear drum assembly fitting your E3 wheel bearings since you need to press in the rear drum assembly from the E5 to your E3. I recalled the rear bearings for the E5 is larger so the drum assembly may not fit. Lots of RnD and sakit kepala :)

The rear E5 disc is 300mm so will clear most 16" rims.
 

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Peter, you may have problems with the rear drum assembly fitting your E3 wheel bearings since you need to press in the rear drum assembly from the E5 to your E3. I recalled the rear bearings for the E5 is larger so the drum assembly may not fit. Lots of RnD and sakit kepala :)

The rear E5 disc is 300mm so will clear most 16" rims.
i am using 17 btw, u mean the bearing at the center of the hub? i already jet out the center bearing from e4 rear hub and put in my when i convert to 5 lugs:biggrin::biggrin: no much different actually:biggrin:
 

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Is the Evo 4 master cylinder able to supply sufficient fluid for brembo 4 pot ? though i am not sure if evo 5 brembo piston size is same as evo 6/7/8/9 brembo but the master pump size is 17/16" whereas Evo4 is 1".

Peterj and all, grateful if you could share your experience. Thanks a lot
 

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it is sufficient
 

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the lock up at rear wheel ? is that due to brake bias ? Thanks

Peterj, sorry to highjack your thread
 

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i am using it now and i din feel i need push so much to feel the brake,just step on it like normal brake..... if i not wrong, there i no much different on evo 4-6 servo.... and my brake din lock up till now, even i do hard emergency braking on 120km/h.... without ABS
 

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Thanks Peterj,

Is there any difference on evo 3 and 4 servo, i mean are they interchangable ? If i recall correctly evo 3 servo was 1 inch as well.
 

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how u measured it is 1 inch? u mean the thickness of the servo(black parts) is only 1 inch?? evo's servo are double layer, at least 10 cm thick if i measured the thickness of the black parts.......which is 4 inches ..... for me, no much different.... the 1 inch servo are oem proton or lancer maybe

evo 3 servo
//www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...mance/275807-brake-servo-evo-3-with-pump.html

waja servo
//www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...-waja-servo-n-master-pump-for-sale-rm130.html

see my evo 4 servo, but not detail
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i was referring to the pump which is 1 inch. you should be able to see the '1' mark on the pump. some pump is 15/16" size. For evo 3, i suppose it is 1".
i could not see you evo 4 master cylinder from facebook, can u correct the link ?
 

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how u measured it is 1 inch? u mean the thickness of the servo(black parts) is only 1 inch?? evo's servo are double layer, at least 10 cm thick if i measured the thickness of the black parts.......which is 4 inches ..... for me, no much different.... the 1 inch servo are oem proton or lancer maybe
The 1 inch is the ID of the master cylinder, not thickness of the servo.. All early Evo is 1 inch, those with brembos comes with 17/16 inch.. As stated its casted with the marking on its side. Pedal travel will be shorter with bigger size master cylinder, but less leverage (more effort need to be applied vs the smaller ID to achieve the same force).
 

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so how is this mod coming?

can the rear successfully mod into an E3 trailing arm?

and front brembo can bolt straight to evo 4 knuckle?