Get rid of "Cigarette burn marks" on car paint

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Hi all,

Seek car detailing sifus' advice on whether it is possible to remove what my previous detailer deemed as "cigarette burn marks:smokin:" on my car paint. Kindly see attached photo..

I do not have any ideas how these marks came about, and my previous detailer also said its not possible to remove them :bawling:. Had tried his "3-step" polish but the marks remains.:bawling:

Any ideas and recommendations from you guys would be appreciated on how to remove these damn marks.

thanks!
 

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Could that be a chemical stain and did the 3-step polish include sanding the clear coat?
 

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It depends how that stain is attached to your paint. If sitting on top of your clear coat then should not be a problem. If it has etch into the clear coat then is not possible to remove.
What 3 step polish you did?
I would first try mild cutting polish, since only a small spot, do by hand. If cannot, then a stronger rubbing compound. If still cannot, then a 2000 grit sand paper. For sandpaper that spot will blur off, then need to use mild polish to glaze it back, follow by some wax
 

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Hi guys. Thanks for the replies. I don't think my previous detailer did a 'sanding'. Just the bog standard polishing waxing bla bla. I guess good detailers would be able to help me on the sanding ..anybody to recommend ?
 

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Hi guys. Thanks for the replies. I don't think my previous detailer did a 'sanding'. Just the bog standard polishing waxing bla bla. I guess good detailers would be able to help me on the sanding ..anybody to recommend ?
Where are you from?
 

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I am from Cheras, working in Damansara. So anywhere in and around those areas would be great.
 

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How did you get the mark in the first place? Come lemme try my tools on your car.
 

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How did you get the mark in the first place? Come lemme try my tools on your car.
Haha you serious ?
I don't know how I got them. There are a few yellow spots but the one spot I took with the photo is the worst.
 

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I am from Cheras, working in Damansara. So anywhere in and around those areas would be great.
Well, you got bro. Izso choice or you can pop over to my place. Since small spot I will work on it by hand, no point use machine.....lol
 

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Bro s1tl should know what to do, he's the sifu detailer in this forum.
Thank you for your kind words.

Haha you serious ?
I don't know how I got them. There are a few yellow spots but the one spot I took with the photo is the worst.
The stain looks more like some season or aged tree sap stain. Given the center part is slight darker in tone than the outer ring. There is a high chance that sanding might not remove the damage also. But no harm trying. Tree sap stains usually have paint etching characteristic which mean the longer it stays the deeper it goes into the paint.
 

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Well, you got bro. Izso choice or you can pop over to my place. Since small spot I will work on it by hand, no point use machine.....lol
I'll like to watch how to sand and remove sanding mark with hand. must be vtec hands :adore:
 

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Thank you for your kind words.


The stain looks more like some season or aged tree sap stain. Given the center part is slight darker in tone than the outer ring. There is a high chance that sanding might not remove the damage also. But no harm trying. Tree sap stains usually have paint etching characteristic which mean the longer it stays the deeper it goes into the paint.
Gosh, hope that it could be removed. Frankly, I am a noob when it comes to detailing, and sanding on a clear coat paint sounds scary . But sanding, if done correctly, would not damage the car paint and clear coat right? Worried that the clear coat might be sanded until it's too thin haha.

If it is safe, would pm one of the kind Sifus here and ask for their help :hello:
 

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I'm in Sungai Long. Come let me try. I need an excuse to use my polishing pad and DA
 

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Gosh, hope that it could be removed. Frankly, I am a noob when it comes to detailing, and sanding on a clear coat paint sounds scary . But sanding, if done correctly, would not damage the car paint and clear coat right? Worried that the clear coat might be sanded until it's too thin haha.

If it is safe, would pm one of the kind Sifus here and ask for their help :hello:
Any involvement of sanding is dangerous thats why even experienced detailers like me dont use the method. I sometimes will do some sanding but with very fine 3000grid sanding disk for some very fine spot repairs. In your case, Im guessing there is a 50 50 chance of recovery only. Its either sanding would remove the damage and polishing will be required to remove the sanding marks, Or after sanding the stain is still there and the sanding procedure was just pointless:laugh:
 

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Nope, do by hand not sanding. Will try with lighter stuff first......lol
hmm but he mentioned that there was 3 step polishing done before but still fail to remove. So Im quite sure that by hand it would have no effect already