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I'm new here, sorry if posted on the wrong section.

I need some advice on fitting adjustable on my car, Budget is around RM1200 including adjusting and fitting (Preferable cheaper, avoiding eating maggie for the rest of the month :s:) . Saw a few brands out there suitable with my budget but don't know which to fit. Brands like Titan, GAB, Tanabe, HWL, Zerone. (Recommend to me if theres other brands out there which is good)

I'm looking for Hi/Low only. Purpose > Lowered, better stability and handling. Wanted to lower till 1 finger left between tyres and fender, or more than that. (Poison by stance, flush :biggrin:)

I'm driving a Wira 1.6 on 17" wheels and tyre profile 205/40.

Currently Tanabe Sustec with 6k front, 4k rear catches my eye with fully serviceable and 1 year part to part waranty.

So, guys.. Please help/advise me on which brand to choose so i wont regret after fitting it.:stupid:

Thanks in advance.

Tanabe Sustec is asking for RM980.00
HWL is asking for RM1100.00
(No info on warranty)
Zerone SSR500 with body shift asking for RM1200.00
(Warranty 1 year but service back only if leaking.)

All those price include fitting.
 
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i will go for HWL...
well proven brand over the years...
i'm using a set myself (high/low) for 3 years already... not leaking whatsoever yet...

wira 6k front 5k rear will be nice... if can get bodyshift will be better...
 

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Use ur wira as weekend car or daily use? wira front 6k rear 5k is ok for daily use, comfortable n cornering oso ok. rmb rear need to squat a bit for better handling. i using 8k front n 6k rear. after 3 years dy sound start coming out n need to change bush. i heard hwl quite stiff oso. if u enjoy cornering then should give a try.. dun care bout warranty, wont so fast spoil de.. service is not recommended, if u say using tien then should go service la. normal service 4 adjustable oso nearly rm1k lo including install. oso need replace ori set during servicing adjustable...
 

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Thanks guys, it does helps alot.

i will go for HWL...
well proven brand over the years...
i'm using a set myself (high/low) for 3 years already... not leaking whatsoever yet...

wira 6k front 5k rear will be nice... if can get bodyshift will be better...
if u want flush, go for ones with body shift..
If I'm not wrong, bodyshifs design to lower the car without affecting the spring rate from becoming more stiffer when lowering the car right? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Use ur wira as weekend car or daily use? wira front 6k rear 5k is ok for daily use, comfortable n cornering oso ok. rmb rear need to squat a bit for better handling. i using 8k front n 6k rear. after 3 years dy sound start coming out n need to change bush. i heard hwl quite stiff oso. if u enjoy cornering then should give a try.. dun care bout warranty, wont so fast spoil de.. service is not recommended, if u say using tien then should go service la. normal service 4 adjustable oso nearly rm1k lo including install. oso need replace ori set during servicing adjustable...
Mostly weekend car & back to hometown. What kind of adj abs that you are using? I'm not the extreme one who attacks every corner, just on high speed highway slight corners. Currently using orignial spring and abs on the front, the rear using APM 1.6 abs and 1.5 springs cause 1.6 spring i fix on it, it became like rally car :rofl:. 8k front 6k rear? What about the comfort? And you did mention that sounds coming out, what kind? Undercarriage or suspension busings?

You guys got any friends/formen shop that selling for good prices? I'm worried I'll be slaughter by them lol.
 
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instead of trying discussing about brand of adjustable, try sitting in (frenz, or company test cars) cars that already has adjustable installed.

I believe Titan suspension has a test car, for their customer...I may be wrong
 

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instead of trying discussing about brand of adjustable, try sitting in (frenz, or company test cars) cars that already has adjustable installed.

I believe Titan suspension has a test car, for their customer...I may be wrong
Not everyone around me has a adjustable abs @.@ My working place have 2 people using Seremban Custom made Adjustable which cost nearly to 2k. Ace Suspension if I'm not mistaken. One of their suspension already starting to make noises. By Titan, I'm not so sure cause its price quoted to me is around 800MYR. I think it was the local one made by GAB factory?
 
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i suspect tanabe sustec not fully serviceable...because the damper seal was welded type..not screw lock type...

go for HWL...and with stock engine 6k front is good enough for daily use and occasional fast cornering...i'm using one as well...

but i would suggest u to wait and keep the money pile up a bit for hi-lo/soft hard unit because u can adjust damping and adjust high-low of your car without touching the spring setup instead adjusting by shift the absorber body itself....

the good thing adjusting by the body means u have (short,lowered suspension but with:) long spring travel that would not bottoming out and the damper have full motion that means better handling on bumpy surface.....
 

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I support pomen say, buy soft hard adjs. stiff adjs is exciting at cornering but mus rmb u use tis machine for long journey oso. rear stiff behind ppl sit feel uncomfortable. i use sustec 6k front 6k rear. comfort n cornering ok. once change to 4g93 engine front automatically lowered 1". now d absorber not so gd so it will bounce me once kena hole coz spring tension high. too stiff adjs very fast make bushing n other parts make sound. too stiff=less free play. anyway can sms me 012-9444984.

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After change engine i change spring to 8k n 6k..
 

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i suspect tanabe sustec not fully serviceable...because the damper seal was welded type..not screw lock type...

go for HWL...and with stock engine 6k front is good enough for daily use and occasional fast cornering...i'm using one as well...

but i would suggest u to wait and keep the money pile up a bit for hi-lo/soft hard unit because u can adjust damping and adjust high-low of your car without touching the spring setup instead adjusting by shift the absorber body itself....

the good thing adjusting by the body means u have (short,lowered suspension but with:) long spring travel that would not bottoming out and the damper have full motion that means better handling on bumpy surface.....
Thanks pomen, but i think now they have the bodyshift thing. I think is something like hi/low/soft/hard concept. But need to adjust from morning till night lol. I don't want to spent too much on suspension, cause my tyres wanna botak d. :banghead:. Now I just want to find a decent hi/lo adjustable which wont give me a headache after I fit on it.

Seems like HWL will be on top of the list then, with all those good feedbacks.

I support pomen say, buy soft hard adjs. stiff adjs is exciting at cornering but mus rmb u use tis machine for long journey oso. rear stiff behind ppl sit feel uncomfortable. i use sustec 6k front 6k rear. comfort n cornering ok. once change to 4g93 engine front automatically lowered 1". now d absorber not so gd so it will bounce me once kena hole coz spring tension high. too stiff adjs very fast make bushing n other parts make sound. too stiff=less free play. anyway can sms me 012-9444984.

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After change engine i change spring to 8k n 6k..
I think I wont be touching my engine "YET" :rolleyes: cause its still in good cond. Moreover its still a 4G92 =P. Mcdull, you are currently using Tanabe Sustec from Japan or Taiwan? So, what will you choose if you currently wanted to buy a adj abs?:confused:
 

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Lucasng, I didn't see exactly what car you drive but expect to lose all comfort with adjustables. Even hi/lo/soft/hard. But then again comfort is relative.

On my Wira A/B I use 4.5k front and 4k rear with my Hotbits Silver Hi/Lo suspension. I purposely chose softer springs because I wanted some roll (not a lot) to feel the corners and not rely heavily on tyres. But even with this spring rate, I can literally feel every bump on the road, so I think it's the absorber rate that's too fast that's causing the bumpy ride. Wife doesn't mind but my 3 year old daughter calls my car the bumpy roller coaster.

If you have budget, consider the Koni Yellow adjustable dampers paired with Eibach prokit. It's said to be the ultimate in comfort and handling.
 

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been using HWL for quite a while on me waja (I think close to 5 years have serviced it once)... I must say its a stiffer ride but compensated with better handling... changed the spring rate and stiffness of the damper few times to suit my liking... can feel every bumps on the road surface...
 

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Mayb i'll choose cheap adjs around rm6**-7**. i just take absorber onli, spring will use bek.. if choose a better i'll consider hwl brand.. wont spend too much on handling. prefer making higher hp :) guys got any idea?? i using ori drop in stainless steel filter, 4-1 extractor, no center bullet, direct 2.3" piping attach to js muffler. got custom make a silencer to reduce 30% sound n create a bit back pressure.. any suggestion next step??

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im also using hotbits silver hi/lo...not that reliable while attacking corners.

Danz izzit ur engine heavier need higher spring rate??
 

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Lucasng, I didn't see exactly what car you drive but expect to lose all comfort with adjustables. Even hi/lo/soft/hard. But then again comfort is relative.

On my Wira A/B I use 4.5k front and 4k rear with my Hotbits Silver Hi/Lo suspension. I purposely chose softer springs because I wanted some roll (not a lot) to feel the corners and not rely heavily on tyres. But even with this spring rate, I can literally feel every bump on the road, so I think it's the absorber rate that's too fast that's causing the bumpy ride. Wife doesn't mind but my 3 year old daughter calls my car the bumpy roller coaster.

If you have budget, consider the Koni Yellow adjustable dampers paired with Eibach prokit. It's said to be the ultimate in comfort and handling.
Agreed with you, I've always have a second thought on going for performance dampers & springs. But, I'm more to stance & flush moddings, gotta sacrifice the undercarriage and comfort. Because adjustable is the only thing that I can lower my ride to the maximum point and the price doesn't cost alot. Tight budget!! @.@

But thanks for the advice Izso!

You guys never heard of Zerone SSR500? (Hi/Low w/ bodyshift) I went to car show at last weekend at Bukit Jalil, I think it was under FT Innovative, They quoted me at 1200MYR w/ installation, I might consider that or HWL :rolleyes:
 

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im also using hotbits silver hi/lo...not that reliable while attacking corners.
Your car too power already la. :biggrin: My car still peanuts so works quite well for me. But then again - what do you mean not reliable?


Agreed with you, I've always have a second thought on going for performance dampers & springs. But, I'm more to stance & flush moddings, gotta sacrifice the undercarriage and comfort. Because adjustable is the only thing that I can lower my ride to the maximum point and the price doesn't cost alot. Tight budget!! @.@

But thanks for the advice Izso!

You guys never heard of Zerone SSR500? (Hi/Low w/ bodyshift) I went to car show at last weekend at Bukit Jalil, I think it was under FT Innovative, They quoted me at 1200MYR w/ installation, I might consider that or HWL :rolleyes:
For this sort of range absorbers, I'd consider more 'experienced' brands like Improve or HWL since there is more feedback on their performance. The Improve bodyshift is slightly more expensive than the Zerone one, probably because of branding and all that. Anyway, it's your money, you choose which ones you want.

I recently test drive a HWL 6k-4k Wira A/B similar to my own and I found it softer than my Hotbits 4.5k-4k setup. It was a lot more comfortable and somehow more controllable. But to be fair I didn't really push it that hard.
 

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Mayb i'll choose cheap adjs around rm6**-7**. i just take absorber onli, spring will use bek.. if choose a better i'll consider hwl brand.. wont spend too much on handling. prefer making higher hp :) guys got any idea?? i using ori drop in stainless steel filter, 4-1 extractor, no center bullet, direct 2.3" piping attach to js muffler. got custom make a silencer to reduce 30% sound n create a bit back pressure.. any suggestion next step??

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Danz izzit ur engine heavier need higher spring rate??
usually heavier engine need hgher spring rate...my 2 cents.............
 

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Your car too power already la. :biggrin: My car still peanuts so works quite well for me. But then again - what do you mean not reliable?




For this sort of range absorbers, I'd consider more 'experienced' brands like Improve or HWL since there is more feedback on their performance. The Improve bodyshift is slightly more expensive than the Zerone one, probably because of branding and all that. Anyway, it's your money, you choose which ones you want.

I recently test drive a HWL 6k-4k Wira A/B similar to my own and I found it softer than my Hotbits 4.5k-4k setup. It was a lot more comfortable and somehow more controllable. But to be fair I didn't really push it that hard.

really??? perhaps due to its damping setting? :hmmmm:
 

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Mayb i'll choose cheap adjs around rm6**-7**. i just take absorber onli, spring will use bek.. if choose a better i'll consider hwl brand.. wont spend too much on handling. prefer making higher hp :) guys got any idea?? i using ori drop in stainless steel filter, 4-1 extractor, no center bullet, direct 2.3" piping attach to js muffler. got custom make a silencer to reduce 30% sound n create a bit back pressure.. any suggestion next step??

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Danz izzit ur engine heavier need higher spring rate??
usually heavier engine need hgher spring rate...my 2 cents.............
 

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really??? perhaps due to its damping setting? :hmmmm:
Yeah. If you think about it, the absorbers is there to absorb all the undulations and bumps and knocks. The springs is there to support the car frame and provide some feedback to the wheels/chassis. These days I wish I had money to go Koni Eibach directly. I'm tired of trial and error (and so is my wallet)
 

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Tanabe Sustec is asking for RM980.00
HWL is asking for RM1100.00
(No info on warranty)
Zerone SSR500 with body shift asking for RM1200.00
(Warranty 1 year but service back only if leaking.)

All those price include fitting.
How come the prices you got so cheap???? 980 and 1100 and 1200????
 
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Yeah. If you think about it, the absorbers is there to absorb all the undulations and bumps and knocks. The springs is there to support the car frame and provide some feedback to the wheels/chassis. These days I wish I had money to go Koni Eibach directly. I'm tired of trial and error (and so is my wallet)
yup...thats why i'm suggesting TS to take the hi-lo+soft hard type..so he can adjust accordingly later on..(whenever needed)

atleast that is what i feels now...urge to adjust damper setting...but not to a degree of "must have" level.... :biggrin:


How come the prices you got so cheap???? 980 and 1100 and 1200????
veloc...that's about the current price....even for HWL i knew some backdoor seller can get much cheaper :listen:
 

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How come the prices you got so cheap???? 980 and 1100 and 1200????
thats rite,did u ask owner of the shop or just ask member that using the adjustble?
980MYR was from the shop called MaxAudio if Im not mistaken near Taman Maluri, that was for Tanabe Sustec Taiwan. For HWL and Zerone 1100MYR & 1200 MYR, that's from last week Car show at Bukit Jalil at their tent, from FT Innovative in Sunway.

yup...thats why i'm suggesting TS to take the hi-lo+soft hard type..so he can adjust accordingly later on..(whenever needed)

atleast that is what i feels now...urge to adjust damper setting...but not to a degree of "must have" level.... :biggrin:



veloc...that's about the current price....even for HWL i knew some backdoor seller can get much cheaper :listen:
I know :proud:. But my budget is limited and I don't want to spent too much for a suspension. A decent one will do, plus it's not a family car. It's only me and my car :bawling:

Improve Hi/Low price they quote me at 1300MYR no bodyshift and W/O installation, that one from other shop tent at the car show event that day.
 

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HWL and sustec good brand woh... FML lo like that.... I bought about 3 months ago a set of Greber sport suspension. Non adjustable but stiffer than stock. RM 1200 also. Coz that time, I asked HWL, GAB and other brands, their adjustables all selling for 1.6 - 1.8k
 

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Balakong got cheaper adjs. brand WINGS. rm650 onwards. gab oso got..
Lol. Dare not to buy it lol, later use not more then 3 months already leaking then that time really scratch head. :rofl:

HWL and sustec good brand woh... FML lo like that.... I bought about 3 months ago a set of Greber sport suspension. Non adjustable but stiffer than stock. RM 1200 also. Coz that time, I asked HWL, GAB and other brands, their adjustables all selling for 1.6 - 1.8k
Oh ya, earlier I said the price from the car show at Bukit Jalil. I think it was from the KakiMotor tent, not from FT Innovative. Yesterday I called them, the Sunway branch. I ask them the price for HWL and Zerone, they told me was 1200MYR and 1400MYR... So i told them the price they quoted me at the autoshow was 1100MYR and 1200MY. They ask me when I'm gonna fix, I said if the price for HWL is 1100MYR then maybe I'll comeby this weekend, then he say ok.

So, this weekend I'm going for HWL =D. Thanks guys for the feedback/advices! Will post the results!
 

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HWL and sustec good brand woh... FML lo like that.... I bought about 3 months ago a set of Greber sport suspension. Non adjustable but stiffer than stock. RM 1200 also. Coz that time, I asked HWL, GAB and other brands, their adjustables all selling for 1.6 - 1.8k
Wah.. Greber is very rare! Where'd you find these absorbers? And at RM1200 it's obviously not very cheap. But I'm guessing it's way more comfortable than a hi/lo for the same price?

In case you didn't know, Tanabe Sustec is not the same as the brand Sustec. So don't get confused between the two. One's the original, the other is made in Gombak.