Turbo Kit For Wira 1.3 JPJ HOW ?

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Hi there ,
This is the first time I post thread.......:)
Hope to gain some information from all car enthusiasts here/ senior
I knew a turbo kit is about 2500.
Then Including other necessary changes .....
My question is, what about the JPJ part ?????
Sure can isit , if i want to bold on turbo kit ?? Or any other problem ???

If I have the choice, MIVEC 1.6 better or Turbo KIt ??????

Please inform me every sifus and seniors. THANKS :)
 
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mivec 1.6 better than turbo kit anytime.
no need jpj inspection since u not making any changes to your engine block.
 

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i won't say that mivec 1.6 better than turbo kit, even at low boost. Furthermore, MIVEC is around 5k excluding transplant fee, it's doubled the price of the turbokit.

2.5k for a turbokit is worth to get it, but there'll be a lot of hassles like u won't be satisfied with your low boost. To achieve better performance u need to spend more. Which i would say around 5k including workmanship? strenghthening chasis, forged pistons....blablablah.

I suggest, save up for another 5k for a gsr turbo 1.8 transplant or 4g91 which will give u more than 100 hp at NA which will only costs u 5k at most including transplant. Don't shoot me if i'm wrong k? Thx
 

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ambayah said:
Are you for turbos because of the kepish sound instead of the power?
No ,, im not going for the pssshhh sound .... if i pssh here pisssh there but no power . wats the point ???:p

I cant go for those 1.8 L or EVo coz my car is 1.3 original

How to apply ?? its above 25 % already :mad:
 

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xcheong said:
mivec 1.6 better than turbo kit anytime.
no need jpj inspection since u not making any changes to your engine block.
XCHEONG .,, my car 1.3 woh , if install sure kena inspect one right ???? since i m changing from 1.3 to 1.6

Where to install MIVEC 1.6 ( i mean the shop and labour ) and any necessary changes ???????

Susah lah , HELPPPPPPP:confused:
 

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thteh86 said:
i won't say that mivec 1.6 better than turbo kit, even at low boost. Furthermore, MIVEC is around 5k excluding transplant fee, it's doubled the price of the turbokit.

2.5k for a turbokit is worth to get it, but there'll be a lot of hassles like u won't be satisfied with your low boost. To achieve better performance u need to spend more. Which i would say around 5k including workmanship? strenghthening chasis, forged pistons....blablablah.

I suggest, save up for another 5k for a gsr turbo 1.8 transplant or 4g91 which will give u more than 100 hp at NA which will only costs u 5k at most including transplant. Don't shoot me if i'm wrong k? Thx

Senior , I cannot go for 1.8 L lah ..... the most i think is 1.6
Really hope my car wasnt 1.3 but 1.6 or bigger too bad ...... :D
Or is there any way to install EVo engines ? ????
 

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since ur is 1.3...then mah go 4 1.6 o 1.5 dohc 4g91 loh

1.6 can take 4g92 dohc/mivec/6a10/4g61t

if u can get 4g61t...good loh...very rare...n power very cun...

6a10 v6 1.6...sound very solid
 

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Yong_5290 said:
since ur is 1.3...then mah go 4 1.6 o 1.5 dohc 4g91 loh

1.6 can take 4g92 dohc/mivec/6a10/4g61t

if u can get 4g61t...good loh...very rare...n power very cun...

6a10 v6 1.6...sound very solid
YONG , may i know what engine is that ?? I dun understand the engine code :p
Newbie lah me
 

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wiralution_frc said:
Senior , I cannot go for 1.8 L lah ..... the most i think is 1.6
Really hope my car wasnt 1.3 but 1.6 or bigger too bad ...... :D
Or is there any way to install EVo engines ? ????
yo wiralution,
well that means we hv the same engine...for now.bro...dun bolt on a turbo into ur 1.3. U'LL REGRET IT. not bcoz of the price but u'll cry after two months! stock 1.3 can't take the pressure of turbo and hence will crack ur pistons!
depends on what u wanna get...u like NA or turbo. if u like NA, then mivec is a good choice bro.....but turbo go for GSR like thteh86 said. and not many ppl will believe what i am about to say....1.3-1.8T is LEGAL(emphasize on the "T" pls). everything pass....jpj pass even road blocks!..i am making the conversion of 1.3-1.8T in about a month time. so....dun worry yet...u still CAN get a turbo engine! :). and hence....DO NOT even think about bolting in a turbo into ur car now....get a real turbo engine....:). and pls..dun got for the mirage turbo engine(4g61t). u'll also regret it bcoz u'll be crying for the maintainence and it's oso not to say that cheap. y? 4g61t is old stock..really old stock. u can ask any mech whether if 4g61t is old stock or not.u might say "overhaul la".yes overhaul might do but lets sum this: engine for 4g61t is about 6k + overhaul about 2-3k. thats 9K! mind u that it's not including installation fee yet.all together u might end up paying more than 10k for a 1.6.
other option is gsr. engine might cost u from RM5400-5800. installation fee about RM1.5k.plus minus everything else is about 9k or so...and it's a 1.8.so....u do the rest of d math la...:)

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yo wiralution,
well that means we hv the same engine...for now.bro...dun bolt on a turbo into ur 1.3. U'LL REGRET IT. not bcoz of the price but u'll cry after two months! stock 1.3 can't take the pressure of turbo and hence will crack ur pistons!
depends on what u wanna get...u like NA or turbo. if u like NA, then mivec is a good choice bro.....but turbo go for GSR like thteh86 said. and not many ppl will believe what i am about to say....1.3-1.8T is LEGAL(emphasize on the "T" pls). everything pass....jpj pass even road blocks!..i am making the conversion of 1.3-1.8T in about a month time. so....dun worry yet...u still CAN get a turbo engine! :). and hence....DO NOT even think about bolting in a turbo into ur car now....get a real turbo engine....:). and pls..dun got for the mirage turbo engine(4g61t). u'll also regret it bcoz u'll be crying for the maintainence and it's oso not to say that cheap. y? 4g61t is old stock..really old stock. u can ask any mech whether if 4g61t is old stock or not.u might say "overhaul la".yes overhaul might do but lets sum this: engine for 4g61t is about 6k + overhaul about 2-3k. thats 9K! mind u that it's not including installation fee yet.all together u might end up paying more than 10k for a 1.6.
other option is gsr. engine might cost u from RM5400-5800. installation fee about RM1.5k.plus minus everything else is about 9k or so...and it's a 1.8.so....u do the rest of d math la...:)

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Halo ZERO_KOOl
thanks for your information, You said that you are going to convert. By that time, mind to tell me about your $$$$ spended and other things needed.......
I ll be back to Malaysia this November . Now studying in Australia lah. Now mother drive my partly modified car to market buy vege lah :mad:

I like what you are doing ....
 

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i see...no probs bro....actually...if u look for my post titled 1.3-1.8 conversion, u can see what i mean. the post is quite old so maybe it's in the pages which are more behind.maybe u can hv a look. anything...u can add me in my msn la. email : kwan_u@hotmail.com

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wiralution_frc said:
YONG , may i know what engine is that ?? I dun understand the engine code :p
Newbie lah me
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1.3 > 4G13 > SOHC > L4 > 12V > NA
1.5 > 4G15 > SOHC > L4 > 12V > NA
1.6 > 4G92 > SOHC > L4 > 16V > NA
1.8 > 4G93 > SOHC/DOHC > L4 > 16V > NA

Mitsu
1.5 > 4G91 > DOHC > L4 > 16V > NA
1.6 > 4G92 > SOHC/DOHC/Mivec > L4 > 16V > NA/Mivec
1.8 > 4G93/4G93T > SOHC/DOHC > L4 > 16V > Turbo/NA

1.6 > 4G61/4G61T > DOHC > L4 > 16V > NA/Turbo
2.0 > 4G63/4G63T > DOHC > L4 > 16V > NA/Turbo

1.6 > 6A10 > DOHC > V6 > 24V > NA (Turbo i donno =P)
1.8 > 6A11 > DOHC > V6 > 24V > NA
2.0 > 6A12 > DOHC > V6 > 24V > NA/Turbo/mivec
2.5 > 6A13 > DOHC > V6 > 24V > (not very Sure)

3.0 > 6A72 > DOHC > V6 > 24V
2.5 > 6A73 > DOHC > V6 > 24V

Other not sure .. do make correction pls!
 

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i think need more than 10k loh..

lets say half cut 5.5k lah...lets say lah..dunno the price..
instaaltion 1.5k
changing parts..timing belt..oil..etc rm 500
front n rear disc (if 1.3 o 1.5)1k?
rear anti roll bar 500?
suspension system...sure change 2 better 1 rite...who wan stock?ehehhe
lets say titan....1800?
jpj...mayb 500

total also more than 10k edi...
 

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Joeker said:
For GSR engine, pls stand by about RM12K~RM15K.
Yeap, its about there. Sad, but true :)
 

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hi. i'm newbies here. may i know how is the turbo kit looks like ? do u anyone have pic ? how much is it ? do that can apply on carb cars ? can i get the turbo kit in penang ?
 

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Yong_5290 said:
i think need more than 10k loh..

lets say half cut 5.5k lah...lets say lah..dunno the price..
instaaltion 1.5k
changing parts..timing belt..oil..etc rm 500
front n rear disc (if 1.3 o 1.5)1k?
rear anti roll bar 500?
suspension system...sure change 2 better 1 rite...who wan stock?ehehhe
lets say titan....1800?
jpj...mayb 500

total also more than 10k edi...
yeah....u just said it.."suspension who wants stock" but it's not to say NOT applicable ma right....yes...of coz it would be better if u can get a set of suspensions.....but that can be later ma..:). i think wiralution meant during the time of installing and engine. not after it and months after it or years after it. my firm is still 10k.not more than that....trust me bro.:). also anti roll, i dun think is up to 500 ler....at the most is only RM300or a lil more.:).

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win5on said:
hi. i'm newbies here. may i know how is the turbo kit looks like ? do u anyone have pic ? how much is it ? do that can apply on carb cars ? can i get the turbo kit in penang ?
hey bro...i am from penang too....turbo kit?? lots everywhere..depends on what u want. i attached a pic of turbo kits that u can get ur hands on.turbo kits can be expensive...depends on the size and brand of coz. bigger turbo's hv higher prices. i dun think it's gonna work on a carb car.(fellow zth members..correct me if i am wrong).

are u planning to get a turbo? what car are u driving? and bro...yes...u can get a turbo kit in penang.....but it depends on who u get it...some might use "parangs" on ur wallet.:)

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eh...anti roll bar 4 wira selling damn xpensive in chop shop 1 leh...i simply put 500 onli...really...my fren ask b4...was like 800 o more...not sure...
calvin000cool...last time u ask how much har?

if i'm gonna transplant GSR into my ride...i'm sure this is wat most ppl will do...

upgrade brake...twin pot
brake pump n servo..double layer...
better suspension...better handling..power is nothing witout control
BOV...stock BOV not enuf garang mah :P
intercooler...mayb vr4 o sumthing...4 future mod...a little lag lah 4 stock
muffler...piping?
electronic stuff?

sigh...mod car no ending 1...:rolleyes:
 

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Yong_5290 said:
eh...anti roll bar 4 wira selling damn xpensive in chop shop 1 leh...i simply put 500 onli...really...my fren ask b4...was like 800 o more...not sure...
calvin000cool...last time u ask how much har?

if i'm gonna transplant GSR into my ride...i'm sure this is wat most ppl will do...

upgrade brake...twin pot
brake pump n servo..double layer...
better suspension...better handling..power is nothing witout control
BOV...stock BOV not enuf garang mah :P
intercooler...mayb vr4 o sumthing...4 future mod...a little lag lah 4 stock
muffler...piping?
electronic stuff?

sigh...mod car no ending 1...:rolleyes:
haha...very true....if u add all those up...it's only about RM10k.engine : 5500 , labour : 1500, bov : 500, intercooler (1st hand or 2nd?). breaks will come with the half cut bro.unless u wanna change to ventilated ones...which is not really necessary.... at least these two meters: timer and boost meter(that depends if u getting 2nd hand ones or not oso), jpj around 500. so how much do we hv left? around RM9500 nee....so...u still hv Rm500 to go clubbing...MUAHAHAHAHA.....maybe like what u said....suspensions...RM1800.oklar...just a lil over 10k. that doesn't go up to 12 k rite??:)

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joeker u r rite,at that amount ur entire conversion costs can be totally estimated wf the labour n replacement parts plus those jpj stuff...

if u hv a lower amount ...dun go transplat first,better save more for a better usage...who knoe that 2nd hand stuff like the enjine this cannot go,must replace this n must replace that...

yong:4G61T is rare,but quite old d lor...more than 10yrs enjine d...but damn fast if mod rojak wf vr4 stuff like 1 of my fren....heheh bungkus wira evo...senang senang..

anyway dude...try get ur halfcut n some recommend workshop...if u plan to do conversion...coz the shop u dunno will jt charge u more...
 

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hahaha...u 4got 1 thing...1.3-1.5 car need rear disc...

yes..brake comes wit half cut..but tat is onli single pod 1.8 caliper...which 4 4g93t has a wee bit of bigger piston compare 2 1.8 due 2 it muz support turbo
double layer servo is from vr4 o evo rite....

timing belt leh...sure lah change rite...

many many hidden things we dun c but when tranplant onli adoi...

like me...4g91 halfcut..2k
installation...1k

total cost me...rm 4k... so where did the other 1k from..u guess:D
 

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hhahah fr ur previous enjine sold for rm1k lor heheh...

yeap ...rear disc for 1.6/1.8/2.0 all same for mitsubishi mirage,gsr or evo..but mostly when u buy halfcut jt d front...d rear disc they will charge u extra...

i get my antiroll bar for rm150 fr wira 1.6 wf arm n complete jt plug n play to my 1.5 but no rear disc...me so poor no money buy rear disc hahah...

yeah make sure ur budget all enuff..goodluck every1 hehe..
 

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mm.. do mirage turbo (4g61t) really cost u in maintenance? i need to know this coz my friend's goin to change it in this month.. engine found already.. want to see.. not yet buy.. coz he said.. mirage n evo3 parts can match... so.. no need to worry... mm.. dun noe laa.. confuse.. hehe.. N/A is d best! haha =P
 

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how bout 4g18T????? Waja ROBOTS......he he boosting at 0.6 bar...purely internal stocks....still virgin inside....so far not cracks......boosting all the way........if i want to upgrade to EVO 6 is there any buyer for the WAJA TURBO KITS????? test market babe
 

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just telling ya...

K3nnYkl82 said:
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1.3 > 4G13 > SOHC > L4 > 12V > NA
1.5 > 4G15 > SOHC > L4 > 12V > NA
1.6 > 4G92 > SOHC > L4 > 16V > NA
1.8 > 4G93 > SOHC/DOHC > L4 > 16V > NA

Mitsu
1.5 > 4G91 > DOHC > L4 > 16V > NA
1.6 > 4G92 > SOHC/DOHC/Mivec > L4 > 16V > NA/Mivec
1.8 > 4G93/4G93T > SOHC/DOHC > L4 > 16V > Turbo/NA

1.6 > 4G61/4G61T > DOHC > L4 > 16V > NA/Turbo
2.0 > 4G63/4G63T > DOHC > L4 > 16V > NA/Turbo

1.6 > 6A10 > DOHC > V6 > 24V > NA (Turbo i donno =P)
1.8 > 6A11 > DOHC > V6 > 24V > NA
2.0 > 6A12 > DOHC > V6 > 24V > NA/Turbo/mivec
2.5 > 6A13 > DOHC > V6 > 24V > (not very Sure)

3.0 > 6A72 > DOHC > V6 > 24V
2.5 > 6A73 > DOHC > V6 > 24V

Other not sure .. do make correction pls!
im just a noob...
but as i know, the 6A13 is a twin turbo engine, it should be the engine from the galant rite?
 

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kai_yao said:
im just a noob...
but as i know, the 6A13 is a twin turbo engine, it should be the engine from the galant rite?
6A13 has N/A and twin turbo, from galant 24 valve.....hahahahahahhaa

6A72 twin turbo is from GTO taikor....
 

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Zero_Kool.

I think converting from 1.3/1.5/1.6 - 1.8 GSR Na or turbo sure get problem from JPJ/Puspakom. Last month my friend wira got problem registering his convertion. Total spend for the 4G93T is about 10K and than to register he spend another 3k to kautim with JPJ and Puspakom. (Another forumer Daihatsu convert CB23 to CB80 only pay RM40.00 settle with JPJ and Puspakom :biggrin: ) Right now Puspakom kena bancuh by JPJ so they will check inside out. till the roof cover also they open
Thats why thinking converting 4G92P add Turbo Kit. LPT just enought to save fuel ma.... :smile:
 

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hehee..jus to share mine

jus replace tha sdandard carburtor to WEBER 40DCNF..very cheap..

WEBER cost me rm400
custom made tapak=rm150
installation+tuning+etc=rm150

btw..all the WEBER set up like jetting, choke,etc are match with my engine 4g15

 

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what joeker said is true. always make sure u have extra money before thinking about transplanting. u will never know what might go wrong with your halfcut. u wouldnt want to use bus11 while your newly converted car has to sit at home, do u?
lets list the prices down :-
- 93T halfcut + rear disc RM6.5k
- installation RM1.5k
- suspension (APM adjustables will do if u are on a budget) - RM1.2k or can opt for used ones around RM600
- timing belt, skimming your disc, brake pads (maybe) ETC for 93T RM700 (which i think should cost more)
- exhaust system RM800-RM1000 (get a decent shop to do it cos u wouldnt want to spend twice doing the exhaust system)
- RM1.5k for back up in case anything went wrong
- JPJ 1.3 to 1.8 u name the price. not familiar with it.

that adds up to 10.3k provided your halfcut is a perfect halfcut which means got no problem at all. normally halfcuts will come with worn out clutch...so cheapest solution is to use standard clutch again thats like RM300? and if u are using the 4wd gbox then u will have to lock it. RM200 i guess. how about aircond? there are a lot of minor minor things which sometimes we forget about them until when the time comes and we're doomed with no money to get them done.

btw, if u want to use back your 1.3 suspension system for 1.8T then i wish u luck man. most prolly the suspension test in puspakom will fail already.

dont save money on handling/safety related item as these are very important things to have with the type of power u are getting from the 93T.

so the estimation of 12k to 15k is just about the right amount u need for proper conversion.

p/s - how much are the runners charging for 1.3 to 1.8?
 

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Does anyone know the power produced for Wira 1.5 running on TD025 (low boost), and TD04 ?

If can, tell me more e.g.
-how many HP on dyno
-how many bar boosted

I'm curious about it

thankz
 
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