Rm8k Wira ownership experience-A long way to go

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Sluggish because your dad no rev kao kao....hahahaha
i rev kao kao for like a week. still same. max speed i got was like 140kmh. the car dont wanna go any faster than that. if slow down, it'll take forever to get back to 140kmh. LOL
Time to use diesel engine oil.
The old campro even with iafm is sluggish.
The old persona have better handling compared to waja..at least thats what P1 claimed.

old man car will feel like old man. Lend the car to anyone in this forum and tell them min rev is 3k rpm and after a month take it back.
chassis memang feels more sturdier and rigid compare to waja. feels nice to whack at corners even with stock suspension and 60 profle stock tires. but no well maintain campro sucks damn bad. no power.

My mom-in-laws Myvi was the same. Every week I go back she would complain how weak the car was. Then I'd take it for a test drive a few rounds around LDP each time revving the crap out of it. Everytime after that she'd ask me what I did cuz so much better to drive etc etc.
LOL. my father in law same la. say the car nicer to drive after fix etc etc. but to me it still needs more fixing. so, in the end i just fix my wife citra and maintain my wira. haha.
 

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I noticed recently that my car vibrates more at night when my car is stopped (either in N or D gear). Initially I thought it was the A/C, but if that's the case then surely it is also unbearable during the day. But during the day the vibrations are not as strong. I have changed my engine mounting about 10 months ago.

I was quite puzzled, until I stumbled upon the cause today. The vibration intensifies when I turn on my lights (hence why I dont have this problem in daytime). Would having grounding cables help with this problem?

Also, I noticed that when I turn on my A/C when car is idling, my revs drop slightly. Is this a cause for concern? Car is an Automatic transmission, carburetor.




Not sure if that's the proper name. The mechanic called it gear selector. In the past I could still get into R gear. just no reverse lights only.

Will do, thanks for the tip!
Try tuning your idling speed higher. When on A/C or on the light it bring your idling speed down, that is why it is vibrating as the idling speed is too low......

Auto, is gear selector......lol
 

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sound proofing, i think the bonnet wont help that much....
engine noise - do the firewall, bonnet while i think can help, wont be much.. somore ur bonnet fiber kan
road noise - wheel arches and floor, trunk tar strip for weight to doors... step further would be foaming
wind noise - doors, seals, remove the stupid wind defectors, and if lagi extreme find smaller mirrors.
I juz consider to do on the hood,trunk
Door need to learn how to open 1st.
I do consider to switch to a gerenador type side mirror since my left one is rosok from the 1st day I bought the car. After you adjust it,it will shake until to another angle. Hahahhahaha
 

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I was quite puzzled, until I stumbled upon the cause today. The vibration intensifies when I turn on my lights (hence why I dont have this problem in daytime). Would having grounding cables help with this problem?

Also, I noticed that when I turn on my A/C when car is idling, my revs drop slightly. Is this a cause for concern? Car is an Automatic transmission, carburetor.
Carbie auto? I don't know man. What size battery you using? Alternator amperage? In a FI car if the ground was bad then yes I'd say redoing your ground will significantly improve this vibration problem when the A/C is on. Use this as a guideline, don't simply ground everything :


I juz consider to do on the hood,trunk
Door need to learn how to open 1st.
I do consider to switch to a gerenador type side mirror since my left one is rosok from the 1st day I bought the car. After you adjust it,it will shake until to another angle. Hahahhahaha
Ganador side mirrors? They are tiny. The original ones are better made so their field of vision is better. I dunno - I'd rather get a electronic oem one from halfcut or something and convert to electronic side mirrors.

Don't simply do soundproofing. Know what you want to achieve, what material to use for what purpose and then only apply it. Otherwise it's unnecessary weight and a major waste of money if done haphazardly.
 

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I juz consider to do on the hood,trunk
Door need to learn how to open 1st.
I do consider to switch to a gerenador type side mirror since my left one is rosok from the 1st day I bought the car. After you adjust it,it will shake until to another angle. Hahahhahaha
keep ur original mirrors... aftermarket replicas can be a hit or miss...
 

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Anyone has the owners' manual for Wira? just want to know when is the recommended time to service the car, etc.

Carbie auto? I don't know man. What size battery you using? Alternator amperage? In a FI car if the ground was bad then yes I'd say redoing your ground will significantly improve this vibration problem when the A/C is on. Use this as a guideline, don't simply ground everything :

No idea about the specs. Alternator should be stock alternator only. I'll just check with my mechanic when I do my next oil change and see what he says

for speedometer there is this guy in FB can fix. I'm yet to send mine to fix my trip meter because he is in Klang.

Your Wira is Sedan or Aeroback? A sedan boot you can get around RM150 used (I just bought one). Make sure not rusty and no pimple before buying. Find those that come with the rubber cover at the brake light. Without that piece of rubber water will start leaking in.

Doors also easy to find.
Hi.. can recommend the guy you mentioned? Thanks!
 
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Time to use diesel engine oil.
The old campro even with iafm is sluggish.
The old persona have better handling compared to waja..at least thats what P1 claimed.

old man car will feel like old man. Lend the car to anyone in this forum and tell them min rev is 3k rpm and after a month take it back.
Its only sluggish at 3000rpm, beyond that, its freaking great. It loves to be revved. I have since fitted Iriz intake. Initial impression no difference, haven't tested it all out. In the future might change it back to IAFM.
 

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Its only sluggish at 3000rpm, beyond that, its freaking great. It loves to be revved. I have since fitted Iriz intake. Initial impression no difference, haven't tested it all out. In the future might change it back to IAFM.
Is it a short stroke engine? Below 3k rpm sluggish not nice to drive in town.....
 

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Its only sluggish at 3000rpm, beyond that, its freaking great. It loves to be revved. I have since fitted Iriz intake. Initial impression no difference, haven't tested it all out. In the future might change it back to IAFM.
Anything different between the normal IAFM and Iriz intake in term of design?

Agree with u on revving the Campro.
 

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Is it a short stroke engine? Below 3k rpm sluggish not nice to drive in town.....
Well, if u dont play near 3k rpm then u r ok. Just play until 2500rpm and drive around town safely..Its kinda safety feature to prevent u frm speeding in town..hahaha.

On highway, it takes of its mask
 

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Its only sluggish at 3000rpm, beyond that, its freaking great. It loves to be revved. I have since fitted Iriz intake. Initial impression no difference, haven't tested it all out. In the future might change it back to IAFM.
my dads iafm also died, tukar iriz jugak.... macam no beza to my buttdyno, but i could just be unfamiliar with the car
 

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Does anyone driving 1.5 wira feeling gearing is abit short?
in 5th gear driving 100km around 3k rpm 120km 3.5k

I think my next step mod on my car is buy some sound proof to put at the bonet.
For older tech cars, small cc, engine spins faster at speed. Limitation of the gearbox tech/cost as well as engine management of the time.
 

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one month one big item... chiak-lat... this round water pump... may as well change the timing belt also... since I don't know when was the last time I changed... maybe 8 year, maybe 10 years. Better be safe.
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Juz wanna ask is driveshaft is a common thing to rosak?
Driving my car few day and hear some weird noise while going through rough surface or those zebra yellow line.
driver side have sound kak kak kak kak kak while going through the yellow line. At 1st I tot was my batang bonet. So I didn't care much until today i got time to check my car and ask my colleage he say might be driveshaft sound. So we try to goyang the sfaft behind the wheel and there was some sound.
The left side is ok,when I shake it didn't move at all. The right side can be shake abit but didn't affect driving on highway. Not like last time haven't change the car on 90km/h start to padel shake.
 

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Juz wanna ask is driveshaft is a common thing to rosak?
Driving my car few day and hear some weird noise while going through rough surface or those zebra yellow line.
driver side have sound kak kak kak kak kak while going through the yellow line. At 1st I tot was my batang bonet. So I didn't care much until today i got time to check my car and ask my colleage he say might be driveshaft sound. So we try to goyang the sfaft behind the wheel and there was some sound.
The left side is ok,when I shake it didn't move at all. The right side can be shake abit but didn't affect driving on highway. Not like last time haven't change the car on 90km/h start to padel shake.
common for an old Wira :-)
 

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Juz wanna ask is driveshaft is a common thing to rosak?
Driving my car few day and hear some weird noise while going through rough surface or those zebra yellow line.
driver side have sound kak kak kak kak kak while going through the yellow line. At 1st I tot was my batang bonet. So I didn't care much until today i got time to check my car and ask my colleage he say might be driveshaft sound. So we try to goyang the sfaft behind the wheel and there was some sound.
The left side is ok,when I shake it didn't move at all. The right side can be shake abit but didn't affect driving on highway. Not like last time haven't change the car on 90km/h start to padel shake.
Drive shaft damage usually start by making noise on full steering turn, then will be louder and louder until when slight turn make noise better change.....
 

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Drive shaft damage usually start by making noise on full steering turn, then will be louder and louder until when slight turn make noise better change.....
Now turning anything didn't have any noise. Juz when going through yellow line & rough surface above 50km/h the sound come up. Other than that drive fine.
 

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wahhh.....I haven't use for 1 year and start got sound weh.....
Haiyaaaa........also a common for wira? Lagi haiyaaaaa
Not a common problem for wira lah..
Common problem for all old cars.

Better check properly before changing.
On my Waja, no sound at all but vibrate at certain speed under load. When i release gas pedal, no vibration.

Yes u can change one side only. That is, if u did not discover that the other side oso got torn rubber boot...hihihi.

I just diy change my BLM subframe (too bad i did not take any picture to share ) mount only to also see the rear axle bush oso penyek while laying under the car.
 

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Now turning anything didn't have any noise. Juz when going through yellow line & rough surface above 50km/h the sound come up. Other than that drive fine.
boss, i think its best you describe the sound...
clicking? rattling? creaking?

the sound tells alot
 

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Not a common problem for wira lah..
Common problem for all old cars.

Better check properly before changing.
On my Waja, no sound at all but vibrate at certain speed under load. When i release gas pedal, no vibration.

Yes u can change one side only. That is, if u did not discover that the other side oso got torn rubber boot...hihihi.

I just diy change my BLM subframe (too bad i did not take any picture to share ) mount only to also see the rear axle bush oso penyek while laying under the car.
If next time I chg might consider to find a silicon driveshaft cover for extra protection.
Wah dun scare me like that lahhh...Hahahahahaha
The sound only come out from driver side only.
 

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sort of like metal hitting sound. Is like a metal sheet hitting another metal thing sound. tak tak tak tak metal sound
yup,is like a metal sound. going smooth road didn't make any noise. Juz going through rough surface the sound start to come up.
do you have a stabiliser bar in the engine bay? it happened to me when my mounting gone bad.
 

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Just now drive my car up to the lorry washing bay.

The way the exhaust set up is only 2 section.
B pipe & tail pipe is combine into 1 section.
Dunno what material is it.

And I shake both of my drive shaft only the driver side is making sound the other one is stable and didn't make any noise.
 

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Wira update.

Juz bought a set of new crossmember bushing,new washer & new nut.
Wait later got free time install them. The reason I change is one of my nut gone missing agn.
From my exp, it can neither be too tight or too loose. Too loose u will lost your bolt. Too tight u will get vibration.
 

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sifu all... what is the the pro and con of changing a lighter crank pulley on a 4G15?
i'm going to change my timing belt and water pump... just wondering shall i throw in a lighter crank pulley...
from my own experience leave it stock. A lightened crank pulley makes it rev really fast and the decelleration (engine braking and all) is drastically lighter. Really annoying mod. All the extra speed revving and slowing down with none of the benefits. It totally changes the way you drive your car and it's just not beneficial in my opinion.

And what 4G15 do you have? MMC LCPs are available but the VDO ones are super duper rare. Plus if you do get the LCP you'll need to get one with a reinforced center sleeve cuz the full alu ones will deform after a while cuz no dampening.
 
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from my own experience leave it stock. A lightened crank pulley makes it rev really fast and the decelleration (engine braking and all) is drastically lighter. Really annoying mod. All the extra speed revving and slowing down with none of the benefits. It totally changes the way you drive your car and it's just not beneficial in my opinion.

And what 4G15 do you have? MMC LCPs are available but the VDO ones are super duper rare. Plus if you do get the LCP you'll need to get one with a reinforced center sleeve cuz the full alu ones will deform after a while cuz no dampening.
ok, thanks.... scrap the idea :-)
 
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