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Hi

Im new here and i hope you guys can help me out..

i send my putra a couple of days ago to change from auto gear to manual.

Amazingly i got my car today and it has been re-born!

Everything from the body to its engine, is standard accept for the alternator and rims..

so basically, i want your advice on how to make the engine run smooth.. with a bit of performance...
and perhaps some good mufflers? anything..

please let me know..

Thankkkssss :)
 

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how come u send ur car for transmission swap, u get new engine??... where is the workshop i also wanna send my car there liao... change brake pad can get full BREMBO brake set??... change engine oil can get turbo kit liao....
 

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i think he finally felt the power from a 4G93 plant.....
last time i changed my putra from auto to manual also same thing, each gear feels like it wants to red line.

just maintain the engine well
and maybe rebore it with 82mm high comp pistons
a sweet mivec extractor
a reasonable exhaust piping
renew all worn and half worn parts
it would be nice to drive d
 

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thanks you guys for the reply...

:)...

u reckon to maintain the engine well as in .. keep it standard but some parts need some changin rite?...

i was thinking to give some good air ... good brand air filters...
maybe thinking on putting good fuel regulators.. and to spice things up.. like u said.. reasonable exhaust piping..

and if i get the high comp pistons how much would it cost me?
alot of things i want to change but i just want to keep it maintain as it is.. i mean not changin the engine.. :)

plus,.. im a newbie in this.. so i hope u guys give me some support!

Thankssssssssssssss a lot.....

---------- Post added at 12:01 PM ---------- 6 hour anti-bump limit - Previous post was at 11:55 AM ----------

oh Skywalker..

I send my car to this shop.. D'Tuning in Bandar Sri Damansara.. the owner named Danial..
so far.. it has been 2 days out from the shop and the car is still 'smoking hot'---> im loving it... :biggrin:
 

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Hi

Im new here and i hope you guys can help me out..

i send my putra a couple of days ago to change from auto gear to manual.

Amazingly i got my car today and it has been re-born!

Everything from the body to its engine, is standard accept for the alternator and rims..

so basically, i want your advice on how to make the engine run smooth.. with a bit of performance...
and perhaps some good mufflers? anything..

please let me know..

Thankkkssss :)
for engine smoothness, chang the engine bearing to race bearing, balance ur engine. U'll feel the difference... Hmm~~ sweetzzz.
 

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maintain the engine well in the sense...always take care of your engine oil,water levels...don thrash the @#$% out of it ... :biggrin:

When is your timing belt,and major service due? i will suggest to do mods on the engine such as re boring your block,changing of bearings anything of that range when you are doing the major service...to save cost on labor.... if your major service is not due...then you can do this :

Extractor + Exhaust Mod.
Aftermarket air filter ie: K&N
lighten crank pulley...
iridium plugs.
Good engine oil with light viscosity

this should give you a nice fun experience for your 4g93.

If your major service is due/overhaul :

port and polish
upgrade to high comp piston
change to semi racing clutch with lightened flywheel

this should give you a really really fun ride ... :biggrin:

if you end up doing the PNP and piston upgrade you should get a piggyback also....ie: Emanage.
 

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ok.... i hope i can get the things rite! lol...

im still new in this stuff... thank you sooo muchhh...

but i wanted to know... one mechanic told me that my disk break needs... what its called..

flusk?? like making it straight flat or something..... the breakpads are good.. im not so sure about the disk brakes..
other than that... still a lot more things to do..

oh yeah.. i wanted to know.. its best for me to send my car to the same shop where i change my gearbox? or i should send to another specialist who does other things... ? and also.. can i get other engine parts myself and ask the mechanic to fix it or should just ask them to get it for me? :biggrin:

seriously sorry if i dont really know about these stuff.. im kindna new into this.. :))

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hmm ok...

what ur mech is saying about the disc is..it needs to be skimmed...they will sort of shave the disc to remove any left behind chemicals from your brake pad,during excessive usage,or over a long period of time...you might have warped your disc...so they skim it...to clear it...they also use that method to make it even....

normally it would be best going back to the same mechanic IF he is reliable and also knowledgeable about modding engines .... so we dont know your mech personally ...but what kind of cars does he have there usually?

for installation of parts such as crank pulleys,or replacement of wear and tear parts should be ok,but things like port and polish,re boring the block,changing pistons ,you should not do it at a normal mech's place.one small mistake,your whole engine can suffer..and he will most likely not take responsibility for his own mistake....just becareful....make sure he knows what he is doing

yes,you can always bring in your own things/parts to change..they just charge you labor
 
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thanks for the reply...

about the disk... yeah i think i should check it again cuz it has been awhile since the last time i had it fix... or maybe never had it fix :S...

cuz the car has been abondened for almost 2 years.. and for the past couple of months... its back on track..

The place i send my car off... was good.. so far from what i see,.. he did a good job.. but im just waiting for a week or two to see the effects... hope there will be no bad effects.. i did in d'tuning in bandar sri damansara... its close by to my office.. (just in case of anything i can just send it off ther) and he has skyline fairlady and some modified cars... really nice work on the engines... by the llook of it.. and they provide dyno jet? or something... :)

btw,

its best for me to service my car first before i change any parts of the car rite? cuz i just change my gearbox.. and now i need to change the engine oil.. so basically its best for me to service it first then 're-furbished' whatever things i want to do with other engine parts.. ?

Thank you so much for your reply... really appriciate it.. :))
 

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no problem bro... =] this is what zth is all about....helping and learning.

Your car should be in good hands...since they provide those kind of services.Lucky you it is also convenient. :top:

They can always get for you the GReedy emanage + tune + dyno all in one place..hehehe.

depends bro what kind of re-furbish are you gonna do ?Whats the mileage on your car ? any major service before? Change of timing belt? all the other belts?

if your car is in good running condition(no white/bluish smoke from exhaust)...low mileage...then just change your engine oil,oil filter and spark plugs....then begin your modding such as exhaust ,extractor/header,filter,plugs,and all..

when the time comes,and you plan to change pistons and do PNP....you can do your top overhaul also,change your timing belts,if changing pistons,change your pistonrings, bearings all also...and your engine will be as good as new....and run as smooth as Hot Brazilian super model booty... :rofl:
 

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thankkssssss

thanks for the advice.. really really appriciate it...

well so far my car is alrite.. no white smokes... is just the engine oil etc need to be change...
so YAY i can start modding my car after!

well about major services about the car... hmmm im not so sure cuz i wasnt here for almost 2 years and most probably my folks send it off to some mechanic shop and just ask them to service it without knowing what they r doing! lol

timing belt.... hmmm im not so sure about that yet.. i think it was ages ago... but stilll i need to check it out,...

and i wanted to know.. how can i make sure that its a goot extractor? stainless steel? chrome or watever? by the look of it? or how?

seriously thanks alot for your help! really really learned alot... :))

ps: i am a hot brazillian super model with a booty... LOOOLLL naahh just kidding.. im a girl thou ;) :biggrin:
 

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if the car is left there for 2yrs....
n if i were u, i'll at least change the timing belt n other belting....
rubbers can harden over time....
n u wont know wat's the condition of ur timing belt now....
its better to hav it changed before it just snapped one day without any sign.....

also...monitor ur engine oil n water level frequently....
another way to know whether ur engine is having piston rings/bearing probs n head gasket prob....
when engine is left un-run for a long time...it somehow "eat" the bearings....
i've been thru this when i transplanted my engine....engine oil level keep dropping...no sign of white smoke or watever...
finally decided to change piston rings n all bearings...
when taking out bearings, oni realise crank bearing "makan" edi....
lucky i decided to change it.....

anyway...
for ur case...just use the car for sometime 1st....
i'm sure there'll be more wear n tear parts showing probs if ur car was left untouched for 2yrs....
all the bushings/mountings/bearings/etc.....
after some time, when all these wear n tear parts r working fine, then oni think abt modding....

just my 2cents la...
i mayb wrong....
 

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thanks for the reply...

yup...i still need to check on the timing belts and as what u said.. the bearings.. its true.. could be cuz the car only driven i think 3-4 times for 2 years???

thats what im planning thou... after a good car service and check up.. then i'll start doing some mods...

urm.. whats the price range for piston/bearing etc ?

thx calvin
 

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i dun think there's a need to change ur pistons...
if u r refering to piston rings, conrod bearings n crank bearings, its not dat costly....
i get my pistons rings (RIK Japan) + conrod bearings (ACL Aluglide) + crank bearing (ACL Aluglide) + metal gasket for slightly less than RM500....
this does not include workmanship....oni the price of the stuff/spareparts alone....
 

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The belts definitely needs to be changed before it snaps....since the history of the car is not certain...do not take the risk...change your engine oil...try using oil with a viscosity 10w-40....semi synthetic....change your spark plugs...change the belts...then start modding...if your timing belt snaps....you can kiss that beautiful 1.8dohc twin cam 4g93 baby goodbye.....nothing is hotter then a nice clean smooth engine under the hood.. :biggrin:

about the extractor/header..you can just get those stainless steel ones..can get replica's...or ori from japan...BUT before getting the extractor...you need to decide what do you want out of your car....? there are 2 types of extractor. 4-2-1 and 4-1.this is a post in another thread :

4-2-1 extractor should be good for you.power comes at early rpm

4-1 for better top end power

4-2-1 for low/mid range power

in short,your peak torque will come in at later parts of the RPM range if you go for 4-1,and the other way round for 4-2-1.

when you are racing/driving fast...you drag your rpm all the way to lets say 7k,then shift rpm drops to maybe around 4k then it starts climbing again...till the next shift...from what i understand,for those who like to drag 4-1 is the best cause you will mostly be using high rpms...

but if your car is more for city driving or street driving ...go for 4-2-1..you'll be using more low to mid range power rather then high...you need to decide what you want or whats best for you.nobody can tell you what you want. :nurse:
hope this helps you some how decide which will be best for you.

ps: i hope the Brazilian Booty thing did not offend you ... :D hehehe ..to my defense...you caught me off guard... :biggrin:
 
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thx calvin!

lol urm thanks to angrysnail!

yeah... im getting this baby on the road as if its a mustang! lol kidding...

btw,.. what is good... either adjustable suspension or the normal sports ones?

any suggestions?

thnxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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thx calvin!

lol urm thanks to angrysnail!

yeah... im getting this baby on the road as if its a mustang! lol kidding...

btw,.. what is good... either adjustable suspension or the normal sports ones?

any suggestions?

thnxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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adjustable would be the best option if budget allows....the option of being able to set your absorber to be soft or hard is very important and its money well spent....if you were to buy those sport absorbers...and if in the event you find the its not up to your expectation...you are pretty much @#$%....with adjustable you most likely will not feel this way..the only things is....just ensure when you are getting the adjustables its not leaking....and has a warranty for at least a week or 2...leaking absorbers can be repaired/serviced...
 

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OMG im soooo pissed!!

loooll nah com'onnn its alrite! im enjoying your book of knowledge about cars!

sorry but i didnt see your msg for the extractor ones...
hmmm... 4-2-1 shorter range killer pick ups and 4-1 is bests for longer range? as u said.. higher rpms... but usually the extractor comes with the piping set? or only the 4-2-1 host connected to the engine, and another one thats connected to the 2 end from the extractor.. ok .. im lost.. but it comes with the set rite? (inc piping exhaust etc?)

yup about the timing belt.. im planning to take my car tomorrow... but im completely blank to where abouts to send it....

thanks again Mr AD EG!

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Exhaust setup consist of :

1.Extractor @ Exhaust Manifold @ Header
2.Piping...normally changed to larger diameter and catalytic converter removed(aka DE-CAT)
3.Muffler

so you can choose your own extractor,piping and muffler...
 

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niicceeeee..

yes. im a happy bunny!

thnx again!!!!

enjoy the knowledge so much!

cant wait to work the car out.. thanks u guys

:wink::wink::smile::smile:
 
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niicceeeee..

yes. im a happy bunny!

thnx again!!!!

enjoy the knowledge so much!

cant wait to work the car out.. thanks u guys

:wink::wink::smile::smile:
hehehe your welcome.

Have fun modding that beast...
 

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hmm ok...

what ur mech is saying about the disc is..it needs to be skimmed...they will sort of shave the disc to remove any left behind chemicals from your brake pad,during excessive usage,or over a long period of time...you might have warped your disc...so they skim it...to clear it...they also use that method to make it even....

normally it would be best going back to the same mechanic IF he is reliable and also knowledgeable about modding engines .... so we dont know your mech personally ...but what kind of cars does he have there usually?

for installation of parts such as crank pulleys,or replacement of wear and tear parts should be ok,but things like port and polish,re boring the block,changing pistons ,you should not do it at a normal mech's place.one small mistake,your whole engine can suffer..and he will most likely not take responsibility for his own mistake....just becareful....make sure he knows what he is doing

yes,you can always bring in your own things/parts to change..they just charge you labor
heya, sry just wanna tumpang thread and ask. how much would skimming usually cost? skimming the front 2 brake disc. can it b done at normal tyre shop?
 

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not sure if a tire shop can do bro...if they got the machine then can la..normally they send to a machine shop..if i remember correctly around rm60 for a pair.
 

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Abang AD_EG , 4-1 also can match the pick up of 4-2-1 and top end will be smoother ... my 2 cents since i'm using 1 ...
and to Bro Lola2574 , according 2 my 2 cents knowledge since i own a Putra as well , maybe u shld go this way

4-1 / 4-2-1 + Larger diameter mandrel piping , just make sure u follow back the original path
Adj Susp
Open Pod + CAI

Sudah cukup makan le atm , then only start on others ...
 

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Wow a puteri driving a putra?
Girl + putra + manual tranny + thirst for power n modding = my prayers for the girl of my dreams has been answered! Haha just kidding!
Back to topic, i guess doing stage1 tune up is just nice since miss lola is new to all this.. Like mr liz@rd said; air filter + CAI + 4-2-1 + adj suspension is ok i guess.. Might want to observe for signs of major repairs since its not been used for quite some time.. Look out in case got signs of KARAT also.. Its like skin disease!
 

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with just simple mods like header and racing clutch, u will absolutely feel the engine response better. but like others said, change the timing belt first. very important!
 

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If you r doing the timing belt.. it is best to replace the water pump as well... coz its situated under the belt area.. 4G93 na is quite easy to maintain... just the parts are quite expensive.. the stock engine has quite a decent power... my advise is to tighten the handling.. coilovers n arb should do nicely... then ull know u can use the stock power when u hv control... then start the next pursuit of engine mods...
 

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ola!!!

thanks everyone!

im off to sunway to check wether they have some workshops open ;S will check my timing belt..
but im not so sure i think my last mech said that it was alrite.. but i better check it again,,,..

well some part of the putra was all karat... which is the radiator head.. change the whole top off... urm... need to check the engine oil... plus allignment.. the steering is proper not straight at all... and definitely disk brakes.. *sigh* alot of things to do before busy monday comes!!!

but timing belt wont cost a lot wouldnt it?

to Luka... urm tighten the handling? u mean?

thxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 

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If you r doing the timing belt.. it is best to replace the water pump as well... coz its situated under the belt area.. 4G93 na is quite easy to maintain... just the parts are quite expensive.. the stock engine has quite a decent power... my advise is to tighten the handling.. coilovers n arb should do nicely... then ull know u can use the stock power when u hv control... then start the next pursuit of engine mods...
to be precise, the water pump is driven by the timing belt. Once u removed the timing belt, u might as well change the water pump as well cause u're afraid that the water pump will fail n u'll need to take out the timing belt again. So, double workmanship.

ola!!!

thanks everyone!

im off to sunway to check wether they have some workshops open ;S will check my timing belt..
but im not so sure i think my last mech said that it was alrite.. but i better check it again,,,..

well some part of the putra was all karat... which is the radiator head.. change the whole top off... urm... need to check the engine oil... plus allignment.. the steering is proper not straight at all... and definitely disk brakes.. *sigh* alot of things to do before busy monday comes!!!

but timing belt wont cost a lot wouldnt it?

to Luka... urm tighten the handling? u mean?

thxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
It depends. Some comes in a set with the tensioner bearings n other belts. Some performance type only comes in single belt. So, it depends on which type u looking for. Would cost u rm2xx.

Regarding the handling, it includes of absorbers, lower arm, arb, body rigidity, wheel offset/diameter, traction n overall mass distribution of the car. A tighter handling Means a better tuned suspensions, arb, lower arms n wheels.

However, with power, it comes responsibility. I'd say power comes after safety. Handling, braking n braking system mods first, then go for engine mods.
 

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get a set of adjustable abs is definitely recommended

owning a putra myself, over three years, i changed from original, to GAB SA with Sparco springs to TEIN
it was finally the TEIN that met my requirements
second hand TEIN but works like a charm and last longer than the rest of the abs i was using.
 

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just think twice before you go for adjustable, its not as comfortable as your current one, you get the handling by sacrificing comfort riding... to certain hardcore driver it's needed, but not necessary to get one if you are not into that level...

Best way is try sit in other putra with adjustable suspension before making decision.
 

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adjustables can be pretty comfortable too....depends on the brand,model and spring/coil....not all will be the same....TIEN is one of the best cause of the levels of adjustment....and its stiff is REALLY STIFF...soft is still nice to whack corner....so depends....

and if you find your handling is still not up to par,can get a very crucial and not so expensive bar...ultra racing bars for your front stabilizer and anti roll bar(ARB)...bang for bucks...
 

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a lot of things is more to personal preference la...
for suspension some ppl find it hard...some ppl find it just nice...
i'd say go for bro zac suggestion, sit on someone's putra/wira/satria wif adjustables to try 1st...
then oni decide whether u wanna go for adjustables....

n some bros were talking abt racing clutch also...
again...its pretty much on personal preference...
1st, ur cluch will be much harder than stock....
2nd, ur driving will be like not smooth, especially 1st gear "balancing"...car will jerk...
again...if can...try someone's car.....

anyway...
most important now is to get ur brakes done 1st....
safety 1st!!!
 

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yeah bro...but you cant just generalize by saying sit in any friend with adjustables in it....

like i mentioned before not all adjustables are the same.... if you go into a car that has tien flex or cusco in it...then you go to another friends car with super street or ohlins ...it will be totally different even at the softest or hardest setting....but they are both adjustables.
 

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i understand wat u mean....
so in this case...as cusco/ohlins r kindda difficult to source....
go sit in fren's car wif tein/GAB....
then go for watever brand/series u think is good....

btw, if u cant tahan hard ride, i'd say cusco is out of ur list....
coz its damn hard...how i know?? coz i using it....
even at the softest also its damn hard...
but i'm loving it!!!
hahahaha

heard a lot of tein users saying tein can be really comfortable when its set to the softest....
but then need to know wat series is dat....
but again...if wanna use adjustables dat feels like stock suspension....
might as well keep ur stock suspension....
y go waste money change adjustables....
dun come n tell me can adjust.....go ask around ppl using adjustables suspension...
most of them oso malas adjust hard...adjust soft....
 

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to be safe on adjustable and not compromising the comfort.. get HWL MT-1 Series.. its a twintube design.. very comfy n good enough for street spirited driving.. its locally made and its easy to maintain coz you can service it back.. racing clutch is not comfy at all...
if you use ur car for daily drive on busy roads.. not recommended to install one..

fixing an air intake,tuned lenght extractor,piping n muffler would get a nice breathing revvy engine.. to control those power.. thats where u need the handling department... 4G93Na has a very good torque for a stock engine.. try playing it on hill climbs n downhill like ulu yam, Fraser's hill n such..
 

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woooo wooo woooooo....

hold up boys... hang on.. adjustable or non adjustable... urm... its true.. i have to try it first to the cars that has these specs..

i definitely go for comfy ones of course but still a bit of stiffness.. hmmm hard to discribe it..

n racing clutch... hehe not yet...or maybe not for my car for now... :)

yeah about fixin air intakes, and any other mods im up for it.. only after a good service will be done to my car..

went to sunway to check up some shops.. and theres this only one shop i notice was 'kakimotor' and selling all other parts.. which was good.. learn a bit or two... and i wanted to know... whats the different between blitz air filters and hks ones? which is better? i think the guys said that the green mushroom hks dont fit my putra or i think K&N ones.. not so sure.. but which is which.. either both... which ones are the good ones? blitz ones are just plug n play.. no added piping or anything... so what do u think? thhnnnxxxxx

and about the brakes... before changin my gearbox,.. i did some normal service like changing the break pads.... oil change etc.. but the guy keep on mentioning to me about skimming the disk breaks.. i wasnt sure wether he is trying to rip me off but... the thing is.. can u see the difference clearly with a normal eye.. i.e 'karat' or bengkok or something? :))

sorry guys.. but really im thankful to all the msgs u replied.. really help me a lot.. thhhxxxxxxxxxx
 

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About your brakes, does ur brakes vibrate when applied? Maybe since it has not been used for years, residue could cover the outerlayer too, making your braking poor.. If so, you might take longer to stop the car.. Dangerous also.. Huhu if the price of doing it is too high, the he's trying to rip u off.. How high is high? Im not sure.. Huhu
 
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Bout ur brake pads, it usually cant be seen by the naked eye just like that.. Under certain circumstances, the brakes wont 'makan'.. It is also good to skim, the hardened layer of the brakes wont make your braking optimal.. Get rid of the residue 1st.. If he wants to rip u off, he might want u to get new ones.. Hehe
true true....

he might have just say... yeah yours have gone bad.. u definitely need some new ones... ;)

but so far.. the break are fine... no vibrations or how to say... feels like the 'gelong' thing goin on... the feel of it is fine.. is just the look of it.. a bit karat.. :S

how bout the air filters? any thoughts about it? thanxxx
 

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The blitz u mentioned is a 'drop in' filter, meaning just changing the filter element.. Putting an 'open pod' or mushroom ones means it will be exposed.. Couple that with good piping (CAI), u could feel a bit more increase in power.. I stress the word 'a bit'.. Usually people change the extractors too for a free-er breathing engine.. Open pods makes ur engine bay more garang also.. Hehe up to u, open pod of drop in..
 

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The blitz u mentioned is a 'drop in' filter, meaning just changing the filter element.. Putting an 'open pod' or mushroom ones means it will be exposed.. Couple that with good piping (CAI), u could feel a bit more increase in power.. I stress the word 'a bit'.. Usually people change the extractors too for a free-er breathing engine.. Open pods makes ur engine bay more garang also.. Hehe up to u, open pod of drop in..
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so the blitz, 'drop-in' filters is like the square ones correct? the ones that is completely silent and the open pods are the ones like hks mushroom bush kindna look and also like half-cut ice cream cones rite??

the ones that i saw.. blitz was the cone ones.. K&N drop in filters, hks mushrooms and i think replicas... hmmmm but u reckon that is easy to maintain? thy said the blitz r easy to wash and clean.. so im not so sure.. the price is around RM470 inc the thing that join them together near the ................. --> i dont know the name. :)))

ps: *dang.... i know im still new to this :S .. thx a million boys!! :driver::biggrin:
 
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so the blitz, 'drop-in' filters is like the square ones correct? the ones that is completely silent and the open pods are the ones like hks mushroom bush kindna look and also like half-cut ice cream cones rite??
the ones that i saw.. blitz was the cone ones.. K&N drop in filters, hks mushrooms and i think replicas... hmmmm but u reckon that is easy to maintain? thy said the blitz r easy to wash and clean.. so im not so sure.. the price is around RM470 inc the thing that join them together near the ................. --> i dont know the name. :)))
ps: *dang.... i know im still new to this :S .. thx a million boys!! :driver::biggrin:
yeah, the square one u mentioned is drop in.. A pod is the semi-cone shaped and mushroom i think u know already..
so blitz is an open pod unit then? Comes with a pipe right? Izit metal or black prastic? At that price i think it should be metal / stainless steel / aluminium.. (im not very sure bout pricing and material).. The air goes into the EFI system where fuel n air mix together.. fuel and air get married, goes into the engine, gets 'banged' and the kids comes out (exhaust) hehe.. If ur going for an open pod unit, better get those with metal pipes and a heat shield ( an aluminium sheet that act as a barrier to avoid the filter sucking in hot air from the engine).. If ur a DIY kaki, u could do it yourself.. And yes open pods could get dirty and needs to be cleaned more often than drop in since its well...... open! hehe drop ins could be cleaned when u service your car, not much hassle.. If it was me,i dont mind an open pod, the sound would be sexy too! Hehe
 

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About your brakes :

-when brakes applied,if no vibration appear or steering feels a little off when you brake..it needs to be skimmed.

-if it is just rusted,it does not necessarily needs to be skimmed...even if your disc is not rusted...and after a whole night of rain..the next morning when you check on your car,you will notice there will be some rust on it..but after you drive a while and park..its gone...same thing...after sometime the rust will automatically be scraped off when brakes applied...some dirt,debris might get stuck in the pad,just hose it down with water once a week..*WARNING* only hose down your pads/disc when its COLD...if you do it when its hot..you risk actually causing it to *bengkok*

-When you say "Gelong" feeling...you mean when you apply the brakes? or while driving even without applying the breaks you have that feeling?

About your filter:

-It is here that you again need to decide whats best for your self...Open pod and drop ins are not about sound....Its the same as the extractor post i put up there.

-Open pod is applied for those who use top end power....High revs.

-Drop in is applied for low-mid range power....

So if you decide for 4-2-1 extractor,i suggest you go for drop in filter(preferably K&N drop in)

If you decide 4-1 extractor,go for open pod.This is how you compliment each and every mod you make.And yes, open pod gives this very loud growl/suction like the engine is sucking all the air in the world to open a can of whoop as$...

Choose wisely... :top:
 
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adjustables can be pretty comfortable too....depends on the brand,model and spring/coil....not all will be the same....TIEN is one of the best cause of the levels of adjustment....and its stiff is REALLY STIFF...soft is still nice to whack corner....so depends....

and if you find your handling is still not up to par,can get a very crucial and not so expensive bar...ultra racing bars for your front stabilizer and anti roll bar(ARB)...bang for bucks...
Big bang for bucks is the front EVO 2/3 lower arm and anti roll bar for the reason.

1) it converts the putra's indirect ARB mounting that uses link bush(aka satay bush) into a more well handled direct mounting that uses pillow ball linkage(as used in GTI)

2) ARB are smaller in diameter, but more effective in anti roll effect.

3) More rigid lower arm as they are cast iron lower arms with more solid main bush.

4) Increase the wheel base length by 10mm, but makes alot of difference.

5) improves on the caster angle. Something like Merc. When u turn, u see the wheel slanting.

Price is around RM400/set of L+R.

But u must make sure ur absprbers have a bracket to mount the linkage.

a lot of things is more to personal preference la...
for suspension some ppl find it hard...some ppl find it just nice...
i'd say go for bro zac suggestion, sit on someone's putra/wira/satria wif adjustables to try 1st...
then oni decide whether u wanna go for adjustables....

n some bros were talking abt racing clutch also...
again...its pretty much on personal preference...
1st, ur cluch will be much harder than stock....
2nd, ur driving will be like not smooth, especially 1st gear "balancing"...car will jerk...
again...if can...try someone's car.....

anyway...
most important now is to get ur brakes done 1st....
safety 1st!!!
Agreed on the personal preference. Try around some cars. Get the setting that u like the best.

Regarding the clutch. Harder than stock..? No lar, get a super single lor... As soft as stock. But cost $%^&*ing lotsa money. halfcut condition >RM1500.

When u are talking about trinity, worth for money... the clutch will damage ur gearbox center shaft in time. Cause the clutch plate has got no vibration damper.

If get exedy semi race, the triple spring on the clutch cover will cause the clutch cover to be damn 9 7 stiff....

When u are used to the clutch response and balancing, the jerking problem can be minimize.

To my opinion, stay the clutch stock. The organic clutch is designed to take 25% more heat and torque than what the engine is producing.


By the time u start modding ur engine to achieve 30% more pwoerful, then u think about the clutch. But it's not easy to achieve 30% HP unless U BOT.

AND YES!!! SAFETY FIRST

i understand wat u mean....
so in this case...as cusco/ohlins r kindda difficult to source....
go sit in fren's car wif tein/GAB....
then go for watever brand/series u think is good....

btw, if u cant tahan hard ride, i'd say cusco is out of ur list....
coz its damn hard...how i know?? coz i using it....
even at the softest also its damn hard...
but i'm loving it!!!
hahahaha

heard a lot of tein users saying tein can be really comfortable when its set to the softest....
but then need to know wat series is dat....
but again...if wanna use adjustables dat feels like stock suspension....
might as well keep ur stock suspension....
y go waste money change adjustables....
dun come n tell me can adjust.....go ask around ppl using adjustables suspension...
most of them oso malas adjust hard...adjust soft....
Ohlin is, cusco aren't difficult to find.
Yes, cusco n hks are designed for track purpose where there is no uneven road condition. TEIN, depends on model.

There are TEINs that's modified to be used on WIRA/PUTRA/SATRIA from other cars nowadays. BTW, U'm using a set of TEIN that's modified from a NISSAN 180SX if I'm not mistaken. HR converted to soft hard by profesional.

It's so &*@#ing hard.

Changing to adjustables is to counter that manufacturing defects on the imbalance assembly of the car. All the cars are supposed to be designed with well shape. However, in the bodyshop of a manifacturing plant, the jig for assembly may not be in good condition as new. Any process before ED treatment have the possibility to cause thebody to slant a little. So, the car can be imbalance at height. That's why u need a set of adjustables to counter the defects.

to be safe on adjustable and not compromising the comfort.. get HWL MT-1 Series.. its a twintube design.. very comfy n good enough for street spirited driving.. its locally made and its easy to maintain coz you can service it back.. racing clutch is not comfy at all...
if you use ur car for daily drive on busy roads.. not recommended to install one..

fixing an air intake,tuned lenght extractor,piping n muffler would get a nice breathing revvy engine.. to control those power.. thats where u need the handling department... 4G93Na has a very good torque for a stock engine.. try playing it on hill climbs n downhill like ulu yam, Fraser's hill n such..
Twin tube, the existance of twin tube is to reduce material. Try Monoflex. They are shok... Abit bumpy, but very good.

The true soft hard adjustment is supposed to be done on the spring rate, not the valve, as the continuous adjustment of softhard will accelerate the wear and tear of the seals on the soft hard adjustment valve in the cylinder.

Soft hard adjustment on the top of the suspension is just a turning to increase/reduce the opening of a valve insuide the cylinder to control the flow of the oil/gas in the absorbers. thus altering the damping rate of the absorbers. Think twice, on the hardest setting, and u can still press the absorbers down is u are at the weight of 100KG, u thin it can support Putra of 900KGS/4???

It's the spring rate. However, spring are manufactured not adjustable.

But, in Malaysia, we have titan racing. Value for money in terms of the design(monotube), the warranty for 2 years including setting change.

And also test on different setting in the cars they provide untill u feel which one u like, they'll adjust the same setting according to your car weight and mass distribution.

Can make appointment with them and change setting until u satisfy. They cahnge the spring into a different ratez

woooo wooo woooooo....

hold up boys... hang on.. adjustable or non adjustable... urm... its true.. i have to try it first to the cars that has these specs..

i definitely go for comfy ones of course but still a bit of stiffness.. hmmm hard to discribe it..

n racing clutch... hehe not yet...or maybe not for my car for now... :)

yeah about fixin air intakes, and any other mods im up for it.. only after a good service will be done to my car..

went to sunway to check up some shops.. and theres this only one shop i notice was 'kakimotor' and selling all other parts.. which was good.. learn a bit or two... and i wanted to know... whats the different between blitz air filters and hks ones? which is better? i think the guys said that the green mushroom hks dont fit my putra or i think K&N ones.. not so sure.. but which is which.. either both... which ones are the good ones? blitz ones are just plug n play.. no added piping or anything... so what do u think? thhnnnxxxxx

and about the brakes... before changin my gearbox,.. i did some normal service like changing the break pads.... oil change etc.. but the guy keep on mentioning to me about skimming the disk breaks.. i wasnt sure wether he is trying to rip me off but... the thing is.. can u see the difference clearly with a normal eye.. i.e 'karat' or bengkok or something? :))

sorry guys.. but really im thankful to all the msgs u replied.. really help me a lot.. thhhxxxxxxxxxx
Smart choice on the absorbers and clutch. Stay stock at the moment.

Abt Air intake, read this... U'll know which one to get.

http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/

however, open pods are louder... Some ppl think they sound sweet. Some ppl thinks they are noisy... It depends...

happy modding
 
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"Try Monoflex. They are shok... Abit bumpy, but very good."

ppl who drives n ride a stock car will feel almost any coilovers are bumpy n liltle bit hard Than stock... all im saying HWL Retains the comfort level of stock... but it still hv the tight handling to take the corners..

adjustable is a hassle.. it might work for some.. n dont for others...
 

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meaning : Some ppl might like it , and some ppl might not. -> like your prev post Personal Preference.
 

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thank you so much for the info seriously.. im reading it again and again and trying my best to understand ... i do understand some of it and im still learning bit by bits..

overhll, yeess this is the information and knowledge that i need to know to mod my car. And yes definitely i will put this in my mind..

but the only problem is.. because im a lady and u know when u go to places like to the mechanic shops they will say this and that.. i know the fact that these things are clear to me.. but might not be clear to them? get what i mean?...

i guess i really have to know what suits me as a driver and my car.. its for me to taste it myself correct? testing other cars.. and especially to understand and have a good study about my car itself...

then again... really the info you gave me.. i really learn a lot.. thank you so much!

ps: yup.. the web really says it :))

thannnnnnxxxxxxx many thannnnnxxxxxxxxxx
 

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thank you so much for the info seriously.. im reading it again and again and trying my best to understand ... i do understand some of it and im still learning bit by bits..

overhll, yeess this is the information and knowledge that i need to know to mod my car. And yes definitely i will put this in my mind..

but the only problem is.. because im a lady and u know when u go to places like to the mechanic shops they will say this and that.. i know the fact that these things are clear to me.. but might not be clear to them? get what i mean?...

i guess i really have to know what suits me as a driver and my car.. its for me to taste it myself correct? testing other cars.. and especially to understand and have a good study about my car itself...

then again... really the info you gave me.. i really learn a lot.. thank you so much!

ps: yup.. the web really says it :))

thannnnnnxxxxxxx many thannnnnxxxxxxxxxx
Well, enjoy your learning process... The curve is going to be so long when u demand more and more from ur car...

However, u need to understand what ur car is for... Some ppl use the car for drag purpose, so, they mod according to their specs for drag... Some ppl use their car for daily driven + a little sport... So, they mod if with some sports + comfort... Some ppl mod their car for car show... So, bodykit is something necessary... Not engine...

I mod my car for open track day + street sports... and i can withstand the bumpy feel on the hard absorbers...

Maybe when my TEIN fails, I'll go for TITAN, get my TEIN repaired and sell them off... TITANS are value for money + customized setting according to your need and preference. + 2 years free maintainence + services... That serves my always chaging setting well... Lolz...