Gearbox manual 222 vs 312

[hex999]

Ok guys, ive gotten the 312 gearbox from lan eterna for a good price(Full set+ original parts for err RM4.4K), so now my car is in the process for the gearbox transplant. I wanted to ask, what is the best exhaust modification thats needed to be done and also the price for it? I was told that to change my piping to a 2.3 inch direct flow with a 2.5 inch muffler, what do you guys think?


EDIT:
And you guys, your RPM at 3k on 100kmh in the 5th gear? well thats a bit high lol :D, but it still does save more petrol compared to the standard auto gearbox right?

 

[NeuroOne]

Ok guys, ive gotten the 312 gearbox from lan eterna for a good price(Full set+ original parts for err RM4.4K), so now my car is in the process for the gearbox transplant. I wanted to ask, what is the best exhaust modification thats needed to be done and also the price for it? I was told that to change my piping to a 2.3 inch direct flow with a 2.5 inch muffler, what do you guys think?


EDIT:
And you guys, your RPM at 3k on 100kmh in the 5th gear? well thats a bit high lol :D, but it still does save more petrol compared to the standard auto gearbox right?

ur car is in lan_eterna's workshop? i might drop by to have a look see.. hehe..
anyway, i think 2.3" piping without centre bullet with 2.3" inlet straight flow muffler is good enuff..
go find a nice muffler like Blitz nur spec and do the piping with lan_eterna also can...

 

[mymax]

Ok guys, ive gotten the 312 gearbox from lan eterna for a good price(Full set+ original parts for err RM4.4K), so now my car is in the process for the gearbox transplant. I wanted to ask, what is the best exhaust modification thats needed to be done and also the price for it? I was told that to change my piping to a 2.3 inch direct flow with a 2.5 inch muffler, what do you guys think?


EDIT:
And you guys, your RPM at 3k on 100kmh in the 5th gear? well thats a bit high lol :D, but it still does save more petrol compared to the standard auto gearbox right?

good.. is it the gb that i answer u via pm couple of weeks ago?
whatever it is, u've made a right move man.. congrats!

ur car is in lan_eterna's workshop? i might drop by to have a look see.. hehe..
anyway, i think 2.3" piping without centre bullet with 2.3" inlet straight flow muffler is good enuff..
go find a nice muffler like Blitz nur spec and do the piping with lan_eterna also can...

or u can let me know if u are interested with 2.5" apexi N1 or dunk megaphone..
btw, don't forget to let me know when u wanna go to AG.. nak tumpang kete hensem!

 

[hex999]

No bro, i just bought it with lan, but fix at my mech, cause he owes me :D
Lans is a very, very nice guy. I really respect him, he aims for loyal customers , where else some other mechanics would aim for a one time cash "rip off"

and about the 2.3 piping+mufler, how much would it roughly cost to get it done? well back than when my car was auto, the old piping had a leak so i replace the back portion of it with a new one, i wonder would they accept 2ndhand pipes which are a kinda new as a small discount :D

 

[mymax]

yes.. he is a nice friendly person.. even for the 1st time u meet him..

regarding the exhaust, the price is vary.. depend on the shop, material etc..
if u need one with cheaper price, just take mine lor.. 2.3" piping (ikut longkang)
with s/steel centre bullets and 2.5" ori Apex'i N1 muffler.. still in very good cond..
plan to change to s/steel piping and new muffler.. so just let me know if interested..

 

[hex999]

Alright i pm'ed you bro, and so how much roughly a good quality piping cost for the specs i mention?

 

[hex999]

And would a 2.3 piping and a 2.5 mufler would be noisy? I prefer medium, not extreme like those turbo cars, would make me car sick if driving long distance lol

 

[NeuroOne]

to make it quieter, just put in centre box and get bigger body muffler (bantal shape one)..

 

[hex999]

Thank for the reply, and to update you guys. I've redone the entire piping
+ a centre box and muffler.
The front piping they modified in to somehow be a Y shape and than joined to one, the exhaust guy said the standard piping is somehow slowing down the path of the air flow when 2 pipes become one, so they modified it into a Y shape.
Whole piping is 2.3 inch, and they used back the exhaust vibrator. back muffler is an apexi model, 2.5 inch diameter and a 4.0 inch tip.( Car now sounds like a subaru lol)

the acceleration is superb now, compared back than with the auto gearbox and standard piping, tested in max highway today and almost hit 210-220KMH. The ratio i have is exactly the same as this video
perdana v6 oren budak qpx 220 km/h!!! - YouTube

Right now i need to change my tyres, im interested in michelin, but some of my friends are use bridgestone and the grip is awesome, so what tyres do you guys reccomend for a 215/45

 

[NeuroOne]

Thank for the reply, and to update you guys. I've redone the entire piping
+ a centre box and muffler.
The front piping they modified in to somehow be a Y shape and than joined to one, the exhaust guy said the standard piping is somehow slowing down the path of the air flow when 2 pipes become one, so they modified it into a Y shape.
Whole piping is 2.3 inch, and they used back the exhaust vibrator. back muffler is an apexi model, 2.5 inch diameter and a 4.0 inch tip.( Car now sounds like a subaru lol)

the acceleration is superb now, compared back than with the auto gearbox and standard piping, tested in max highway today and almost hit 210-220KMH. The ratio i have is exactly the same as this video
perdana v6 oren budak qpx 220 km/h!!! - YouTube

Right now i need to change my tyres, im interested in michelin, but some of my friends are use bridgestone and the grip is awesome, so what tyres do you guys reccomend for a 215/45

nice to hear your mod is done.
wah. u sure can kejar auto turbos like me or any standard Caldina GT4..

what do u mean by vibrator? catalytic converter? nenas?
of course sound will be like subaru, with straight flow exhaust, it will 'release' the true v6 sound..

for tyres, ur budget is?
i would go for GY F1 Asymmetric 2, the best in dry and wet..

 

[hex999]

What about michelin bro? my budget around RM1600+

 

[NeuroOne]

rm1600 for 4 pc of 215/45/17?
prices now are about RM450-500 per pc.
GY F1 Asy2 is a little bit cheaper than Mich PS3..
GY F1 D5 is someway cheaper than both..

 

[hex999]

Ps3 is better than GY F1 Asy2? or? If its around 1800 also ok lo

 

[NeuroOne]

GY F1 Asymmetric2 is better and cheaper than Michelin PS3.
for 4pc, it will set u aside about 1800-2000 la.
if u want cheaper but still very good, go for GY F1 Directional 5.

this is based on prices discussed in Autoworld..

 

[edwin_lcw]

actually. 222 has taller ratio (longer), 312 is shorter.
from what i gather from borak2 with ppl who uses 222 and 312, mechanic and R3 rally mechanic, i gather that:
1. acceleration - 312 superb, 222 normal.
2. cruising @100kmh - 312 more than 3000rpm, 222 at around 2800rpm
3. FC - 312 better in town, 222 better in hiway.
4. price - 312 more about rm1k
5. 222 usually from 6A11 (1.8). 312 got 2 versions/different codes - one from 6A12 NA, 1 from 6A12 NA Mivec (even better).
and ppl call 222 as gearbox 'termenung' where it'll take a while to get u to top speed.

so based on that, if u have 222 or 312, it's your choice.
if u wanna save money and just get normal manual box, just get 222.

Hi just wanna ask

comparing 6a12 std auto 3000rpm@120km/h with (estimated with facts quoted)6a12 manual 312 3200/3300rpm@120km/h

doesn't it means that the std auto have better FC in highway compared to the 312 ?