Are Lightweight Rims worth the investment?

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where to begin with since, I only know about Kean Lee Hin?
It helps if you set a maximum amount you willing to fork out for a set of wheel and fix on the rim specification that suits you and fit your current tires then only you go shopping.
 
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buy bajet rims RM550 and drive economically. :laughing:
new cars have so ridiculously big wheels these days I would trade in my rims+tyres for the 1 size down. Cheaper so that I can buy better tyres. assuming can clear the brakes
 

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new cars have so ridiculously big wheels these days I would trade in my rims+tyres for the 1 size down. Cheaper so that I can buy better tyres. assuming can clear the brakes
Yours 18 still ok la, can still have 10+cm sidewall.
 

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I feel 16" is not worth it, because the tyre price is almost same as 17", and 17" is visually nicer. 16" always been the odd duck for tyre sizing and price in Malaysia.
But some good UHP now only go down to 16, like PS4 and the new Goodyear F1 Sport. 15' now also don't have that many good choices left. V12E2 gone, F1D5 supposedly will be replaced by that F1S. So only left PS3 (don't know for how much longer), the new RE004, and Fleva which doesn't seem that good.

17' in a small car actually to me doesn't look that nice, seems like a small kid trying to wear an NBA player's shoes.
 

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But some good UHP now only go down to 16, like PS4 and the new Goodyear F1 Sport. 15' now also don't have that many good choices left. V12E2 gone, F1D5 supposedly will be replaced by that F1S. So only left PS3 (don't know for how much longer), the new RE004, and Fleva which doesn't seem that good.

17' in a small car actually to me doesn't look that nice, seems like a small kid trying to wear an NBA player's shoes.
17's the best size! 18's quite big

**guess depends on the car jugak
 
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But some good UHP now only go down to 16, like PS4 and the new Goodyear F1 Sport. 15' now also don't have that many good choices left. V12E2 gone, F1D5 supposedly will be replaced by that F1S. So only left PS3 (don't know for how much longer), the new RE004, and Fleva which doesn't seem that good.

17' in a small car actually to me doesn't look that nice, seems like a small kid trying to wear an NBA player's shoes.
15 inch just go for extreme tires since they are quite affordable now tons of choices to choose from and available.
 
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new cars have so ridiculously big wheels these days I would trade in my rims+tyres for the 1 size down. Cheaper so that I can buy better tyres. assuming can clear the brakes
Agreed...
Just like newer pickups...17 or 18 inch minimum...What a joke. Super expensive tire for what should be workhorse. We can see most owners downgrading but as the brakes got bigger....

My old waja comes std with 16inch and choices for tire is very limited but the price is too close with 17inch tire.
Then again, downgrade to 15 will makes the car looks 'jinjang'. I think 15inch can clear my front brakes.

My Pajero was on stock 15inch steel rim which makes the car looks weird...looks over-bodied and sagging at the rear frame when offroading. Upgrade to 16inh with 8jj(i think) makes road holding and offroading much better....Now downgrade to 15inch again+spacer to avoid sagging as 16inch AT tire cost soo much.

Do the 15inch makes a different?
Yes, as its very2 light compared to previous 16inch+tires. FC is a lot better which on a Pajero is significant. Car felt much lighter.
Whats the downside?
Does not look as good as on 16 and body roll is more.
 

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Agreed...
Just like newer pickups...17 or 18 inch minimum...What a joke. Super expensive tire for what should be workhorse. We can see most owners downgrading but as the brakes got bigger....
Like X70 premium on 19", later owner want to change tyres sure make noise.......lol
My friend on ML350 came with 21", immediately change to 19".....:smokin:
 

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Ya lo, I also don't dare to put extreme tires on my son's Swift, later he got surprised and cannot control the slide.
Extreme tires are not so scary once you get used to it. I've been using extreme tires all the while rain or shine. These tires can also help you have some self control when it's raining.
 

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Extreme tires are not so scary once you get used to it. I've been using extreme tires all the while rain or shine. These tires can also help you have some self control when it's raining.
I know, I am using AD08R also on my Evo. But the thing is my son just learned to drive 2 years ago. I am not going to give him something risky, at least not until he has a lot more experience.
 

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After slide, can get new car liao
aiyak. cant afford new car. haha
Like my friend with Evo X, he drives less than 80kph when raining. Cannot tahan, Call me up ask, told him try GY Asy2 that time, then later next set PS2....
i'm happy with re003. i dont whack in the rain but if using extreme i'm pretty sure i will drive slower than 80. hahaha
 

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Agreed...
Just like newer pickups...17 or 18 inch minimum...What a joke. Super expensive tire for what should be workhorse. We can see most owners downgrading but as the brakes got bigger....

My old waja comes std with 16inch and choices for tire is very limited but the price is too close with 17inch tire.
Then again, downgrade to 15 will makes the car looks 'jinjang'. I think 15inch can clear my front brakes.

My Pajero was on stock 15inch steel rim which makes the car looks weird...looks over-bodied and sagging at the rear frame when offroading. Upgrade to 16inh with 8jj(i think) makes road holding and offroading much better....Now downgrade to 15inch again+spacer to avoid sagging as 16inch AT tire cost soo much.

Do the 15inch makes a different?
Yes, as its very2 light compared to previous 16inch+tires. FC is a lot better which on a Pajero is significant. Car felt much lighter.
Whats the downside?
Does not look as good as on 16 and body roll is more.
honestly nobody buys SUV/Pickup Trucks for work lol, most urban driving
 

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I know, I am using AD08R also on my Evo. But the thing is my son just learned to drive 2 years ago. I am not going to give him something risky, at least not until he has a lot more experience.
Your son so young only ah..I thought already working type.
 

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aiyak. cant afford new car. haha

i'm happy with re003. i dont whack in the rain but if using extreme i'm pretty sure i will drive slower than 80. hahaha
But you know a guy that drive more than 80km/h with extreme..Hahahaha
 
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Half century old already. Lol
Meaning the fuel gauge is at the half tank level. Just a matter of perspective. Like the glass of water, is it half full or half empty? The earlier half may be spent striving for a living. So the later half may get to enjoy the fruits of earlier labor.
 

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Meaning the fuel gauge is at the half tank level. Just a matter of perspective. Like the glass of water, is it half full or half empty? The earlier half may be spent striving for a living. So the later half may get to enjoy the fruits of earlier labor.
Still struggling and striving bro, cannot relax and enjoy much yet. Kids getting into college so expenses escalating there.
 

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But you know a guy that drive more than 80km/h with extreme..Hahahaha
We all know a guy who drives more than 80km/h with extreme tyres. *Pointing at you

extreme tires i scared scared raining time slide slide. :tearsofjoy:
Contrary to popular belief, not all extreme tyres have no grip in the rain..... I've used Hankook RS3, RSR, AD07, AD08R all in the rain on different platforms and I don't really see any issue with grip. But granted - I wasn't driving like a mad-man in the rain, just normal road speeds like 70-80km/h max 100km/h. Braking and grip no issue and no aquaplaning unlike the rubbish GY NCT5 (which isn't an extreme tyre I know). Main problem with extreme tyres is the wear is stupidly high only and won't last you max a year on the road.
 

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Contrary to popular belief, not all extreme tyres have no grip in the rain..... I've used Hankook RS3, RSR, AD07, AD08R all in the rain on different platforms and I don't really see any issue with grip. But granted - I wasn't driving like a mad-man in the rain, just normal road speeds like 70-80km/h max 100km/h. Braking and grip no issue and no aquaplaning unlike the rubbish GY NCT5 (which isn't an extreme tyre I know). Main problem with extreme tyres is the wear is stupidly high only and won't last you max a year on the road.
wah. my re003 lasted 4 years. hahaha. with re003 oso i scared to drive fast in the rain. highway speed when raining only 90kmh max. if i go extreme i'll definitely pitstop at rnr and wait for the road to dry up. :tearsofjoy:

but.. RE71R is damn sex.. i would buy that than R888R.
 

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wah. my re003 lasted 4 years. hahaha. with re003 oso i scared to drive fast in the rain. highway speed when raining only 90kmh max. if i go extreme i'll definitely pitstop at rnr and wait for the road to dry up. :tearsofjoy:

but.. RE71R is damn sex.. i would buy that than R888R.
Isn't the R888R considered semi-slick already?

Anyway driving fast in the rain isn't for us mere mortals. Gotta have tofu mad skillz :biggrin:
 

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Isn't the R888R considered semi-slick already?

Anyway driving fast in the rain isn't for us mere mortals. Gotta have tofu mad skillz :biggrin:
Us mere mortals only have balls of tofu when it’s raining heavily.
Frankly speaking I also balls shrink, I don’t want to drift with a RWD in the rain.
 
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How the hell u guys drive 4 years with 1 set of tyres? I change 2 pcs every half a year.
Huh so fast?? What tires do you use and how many km travelled yearly? For me, I use UHP tires with tread wear around 280-320, roughly can last 40-50k km. I do rotation every 20k km.
 

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How the hell u guys drive 4 years with 1 set of tyres? I change 2 pcs every half a year.
Drive like normal drivers do. I get about 50 to 60K mileage for each tyre change. and using eco tyres XM2.
talking about tyres. i note now tyres starts their life when installed on rims. so instead of getting less than a yr / half yr fresh tyre. you can get 2 yrs made tyre and use it for 4 yrs or until it wear or 40/50K km
 

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Drive like normal drivers do. I get about 50 to 60K mileage for each tyre change. and using eco tyres XM2.
talking about tyres. i note now tyres starts their life when installed on rims. so instead of getting less than a yr / half yr fresh tyre. you can get 2 yrs made tyre and use it for 4 yrs or until it wear or 40/50K km
i think depends on the tires compound oso. i bought toyo NE03 for my wife citra, year 2016, installed 2017. 4 years use the thread still thick but the compound harden. also maybe due to bad suspension and 1 slightly bengkok rims, after swap new suspension can feel the tires pulling everywhere even after done alignment twice. now swap to yokohama ES32 year 2019. let's see how long this one last. :laughing:

oh, the citra is on 195/60r15 with new set of china/taiwan re30 copy. hahaha
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Huh so fast?? What tires do you use and how many km travelled yearly? For me, I use UHP tires with tread wear around 280-320, roughly can last 40-50k km. I do rotation every 20k km.
TR1, ATR Sport, both hard tyres but still eat a lot, i guess car heavy and kuat cornering lol.
I follow VR2turbo's advice, just use the fronts till botak since its FWD. then swap the rear to front.
Changing a pair soon. Take my usual speed at corner already making noise ahahha
 

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TR1, ATR Sport, both hard tyres but still eat a lot, i guess car heavy and kuat cornering lol.
I follow VR2turbo's advice, just use the fronts till botak since its FWD. then swap the rear to front.
Changing a pair soon. Take my usual speed at corner already making noise ahahha
TR1 is 280 TW so a bit softer but ATR is 400 so should last long enough. My Mark X also never rotate because staggered wheel sizes but the wear is quite even hence all 4 can last at least 2-3 years with 300 TW tires. Probably you drive too fast! I drive slow2 only, typical uncle drive. Lol
 

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I tot thats the
TR1 is 280 TW so a bit softer but ATR is 400 so should last long enough. My Mark X also never rotate because staggered wheel sizes but the wear is quite even hence all 4 can last at least 2-3 years with 300 TW tires. Probably you drive too fast! I drive slow2 only, typical uncle drive. Lol
Frm my exp using normal tires, high speed drives does not have significant increase in wear. Its weight and cornering. I got a friend shod his Honda Stream with Toyo TR1 (or is it T1R...the older model) and that lasted just abt 1 year. That car is loaded most of the time.Total mileage is well below 40k km.

4x4 tires are an exception. I am referring to 4x4 and not SUV. AT tires seems to last long, quite long actually. Its either due to the at least 4x thicker thread (compared to car tires) depth or different compound. Other HT tires seems to wears out like a normal car HP tires.
 

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I tot thats the
Frm my exp using normal tires, high speed drives does not have significant increase in wear. Its weight and cornering. I got a friend shod his Honda Stream with Toyo TR1 (or is it T1R...the older model) and that lasted just abt 1 year. That car is loaded most of the time.Total mileage is well below 40k km.

4x4 tires are an exception. I am referring to 4x4 and not SUV. AT tires seems to last long, quite long actually. Its either due to the at least 4x thicker thread (compared to car tires) depth or different compound. Other HT tires seems to wears out like a normal car HP tires.
Weight and especially how aggressive you corner dictate a lot on tire wear. Cornering hard usually wears out more on the outer treads though.