anyone using nitrous in daily driven car here?

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been at ZTH for 3 years, never heard of anybody using nitrous in daily driven car, just wanna know is anybody using it..

of course what i mean is not nitrous with 500hp amd use it all the way in a daily driven car, i mean in a daily driven car ,often use it, like once a week ...and it is low power nitrous like below 100hp...i want to know if it is done well, is it reliable and safe to engine? tqvm:adore::burnout:
 

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Don't even boost 1 bar daily drive. Where got chance to use nitrous. Watch too much TV already.
 

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somehow with low power like 35-50hp,with correct tuning, it is safe according to those nitrous user on net and nitrous manufacturer..provided not nitrous all th way and only activate while w.o.t
 

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IMHO might as well do BOT or SC kit than NOS as the extra power will be available all the time and no need to refill anything. NOS should be the last thing to add if you already maxed out on other options.
 

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Ask BlackHowling LOL!
His Rav 4.
He don't use nitrous when driving, he use it to psst psst psst blow up skirts of girls passing by his car.
 

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Not for normal average joe.

Petrol price nowadays is already pinching the pocket. Tekan accelerator have to think twice.
Aircond use oso have to see see first. If weather ok, I would open window when driving.

NOS for daily drive?? Judging from the cost of mod and refills...unlikely for many bros in ZTH...

If can afford NOS, even for daily drive...why not?? You would be the 1st I would idolize...:adore:
 

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i had been gone through turbo charge all these years bro...a nitrous express nos kit cost me 2600 with 3 option, 35,50 and 75 hp...turbo charge? i bought used top fuel turbo kit with hks gt bb turbo for 8k, tuning and other workmanship nt yet included lol.... but for sure power gain is awesome then nos....how ever, brother sudah nak cuci tangan since block liner crack due to too much boost hunger:driver:now using stock b18c gsr with some intake and exhaust mods, ordered nos trying to see is the power can be comparative with b20 vtec or not..so need survey around and get other people experiences...ok now bro,anybody using it?where is the bro blackhowling?

hurm ixeo, maybe next thread should be how to "purge the skirt up using nitrous" included extra information where to mount thee purge nozzle and the angle.... i like this lol:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
 

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yes there are, ive seen sum daily drivers with nos hooked up to it. its better to crank ur boost up peter den to run run both imo
 

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xtrremeleo, like i said, boost hunger till crack sleeve, but all other internal are fine especially those forgies..i dunno why but might be there had been damaged done before last time..
 

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IMHO might as well do BOT or SC kit than NOS as the extra power will be available all the time and no need to refill anything. NOS should be the last thing to add if you already maxed out on other options.
Yup, I will go turbo anytime then NOS. NOS got to refill....:banghead:
 

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IMHO might as well do BOT or SC kit than NOS as the extra power will be available all the time and no need to refill anything. NOS should be the last thing to add if you already maxed out on other options.
i agree with this..

BOT or SC 1st.. only after that u should put NOS..

i hv a KE70 with NOS.. but mine is spelled NGV :rofl::rofl::rofl: joking only.. don't take it seriously :wink:
 

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turbo like i said,i had gone through it lots of time and long time ago, should say since i am still stick "P" on my windscreen.. so now, using stock na plan to have some secret under the hood... i dont mind refill it when my legs and fingers are itchy :biggrin: i dont expect much gain like turbocharged, but i do saw vios with 35hp nitrous gain 35hp and 50nm on wheel.. i hope to get that at least... just hope it will be reliable and last longer as a turbo charged engine if done and tune right.. provided dont always spray it wildly :biggrin:
 

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turbo like i said,i had gone through it lots of time and long time ago, should say since i am still stick "P" on my windscreen.. so now, using stock na plan to have some secret under the hood... i dont mind refill it when my legs and fingers are itchy :biggrin: i dont expect much gain like turbocharged, but i do saw vios with 35hp nitrous gain 35hp and 50nm on wheel.. i hope to get that at least... just hope it will be reliable and last longer as a turbo charged engine if done and tune right.. provided dont always spray it wildly :biggrin:
Turbo engines actually should last long if done properly too. So for you to use NOS now after previously using turbo is like going backwards IMHO. But if you want an extra juice with lower cost, then NOS should suite your purpose as that's the cheapest forced induction bolt-on compared to turbo or SC kits. Not sure how much gain would be reliable enough though.
 

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turbo like i said,i had gone through it lots of time and long time ago, should say since i am still stick "P" on my windscreen.. so now, using stock na plan to have some secret under the hood... i dont mind refill it when my legs and fingers are itchy :biggrin: i dont expect much gain like turbocharged, but i do saw vios with 35hp nitrous gain 35hp and 50nm on wheel.. i hope to get that at least... just hope it will be reliable and last longer as a turbo charged engine if done and tune right.. provided dont always spray it wildly :biggrin:
Oic.. Gudluck then

Make sure u hv forged internals coz NOS is another form of force induction

And cost a lot more than d other 2

Gudluck.. Do update us :wink:

---------- Post added at 10:17 PM ---------- 6 hour anti-bump limit - Previous post was at 10:10 PM ----------

Turbo engines actually should last long if done properly too. So for you to use NOS now after previously using turbo is like going backwards IMHO. But if you want an extra juice with lower cost, then NOS should suite your purpose as that's the cheapest forced induction bolt-on compared to turbo or SC kits. Not sure how much gain would be reliable enough though.
NOS cheapest ka? I tot its d most expensive

Coz NOS 1 refill got a few shots

Turbo n supercharge 1 time install, unlimited shots :biggrin:
 

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nos is the cheapest form of force induction...
its only good for high hp gain...for the price..

dont compare with reconditioned turbo or supercharge..

starting from RM3000 you can get wet kit...30hp up to 100hp...
if you consider very low boost for many occasion it would be expensive...
refill normally RM180-200...but if you rent the mother tank it would cost around RM60-80 per refill...still expensive..

with 50 shot you could get around 4 minutes of boost...

with wide-open-throttle switch, window switch, afr monitoring, dual solenoid, it should be safe..
the only problem is very high torque..because the shot does not proportional to rpm..

some race team use nitrous to test their engine strength..increase shot until it fail...very easy and instant power gain...
 

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Am I correct to assume that all NOS installation are considered illegal when the car is used on public road?
 

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nope...its legal...i don't see any illegal on it..

maybe the tank installation need approval..but its not combustible gas...
pressure i'm not sure..don't think its very high pressure..
 

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Any tuner bro out there to verify that NOS installation to a stock car is legal in the eye of the law?

Illegal or legal question, can we say LPG and NOS setup is similar? If course, the HP gain from NOS is tremendous compared to the weedy LPG..
 

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Nitrous oxide is a non flammable gas

Read here Nitrous oxide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It provides more oxygen to d engine thus making it capable to burn more fuel & make more power

I think it's legal coz d 'bahan bakar' is still petrol..

NGV need to register coz different 'bahan bakar' already
 

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nos is the cheapest form of force induction...
its only good for high hp gain...for the price..

dont compare with reconditioned turbo or supercharge..

starting from RM3000 you can get wet kit...30hp up to 100hp...
if you consider very low boost for many occasion it would be expensive...
refill normally RM180-200...but if you rent the mother tank it would cost around RM60-80 per refill...still expensive..

with 50 shot you could get around 4 minutes of boost...

with wide-open-throttle switch, window switch, afr monitoring, dual solenoid, it should be safe..
the only problem is very high torque..because the shot does not proportional to rpm..

some race team use nitrous to test their engine strength..increase shot until it fail...very easy and instant power gain...
Uh... NOS is force induction meh? :confused:

Dude, it's not force induction related at all.


Nitrous oxide is a non flammable gas

Read here Nitrous oxide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It provides more oxygen to d engine thus making it capable to burn more fuel & make more power

I think it's legal coz d 'bahan bakar' is still petrol..
It's not legal. Getting caught with it will probably land you a fine but they can't do anything more than that (like ask you go inspection).

Anyway - to the thread starter : I have a friend who ran his modded NA Wira 1.6 with NOS. According to him it was the biggest mistake of his life. You'll constantly get tempted to pretty the 'happy button' and the addiction is worse than a smoker going cold turkey. Unlike Turbo/SC cars, you'll get used to the power eventually. But with NOS it's instant gratification with a push of a button. Until you have to refill the can, which is about RM280 per refill, and in the case of my friend - it was a weekly refill. Lekat kerusi feel is very tempting.

In the end he took out the set and now it's with another friend of mine in his Accord. I don't know if he kept it there or not but that was his daily drive. Oh and btw, the NOS did havoc to my friends Wira internals. Pistons were burnt crispy on the top side and the piston ring wear was terrible. It really kills the internals and halves or quarters the life span of your engine.

Anyway, lesson learnt is if you're gonna spend money installing a NOS kit for your daily drive and have shitloads of money hiding under your bed, go ahead! Install it! Instant gratification!

If you don't have shitloads of money, suggest you spend it on a FI kit or getting a bigger turbo for bigger kicks.
 

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Uh... NOS is force induction meh? :confused:

Dude, it's not force induction related at all.




It's not legal. Getting caught with it will probably land you a fine but they can't do anything more than that (like ask you go inspection).

Anyway - to the thread starter : I have a friend who ran his modded NA Wira 1.6 with NOS. According to him it was the biggest mistake of his life. You'll constantly get tempted to pretty the 'happy button' and the addiction is worse than a smoker going cold turkey. Unlike Turbo/SC cars, you'll get used to the power eventually. But with NOS it's instant gratification with a push of a button. Until you have to refill the can, which is about RM280 per refill, and in the case of my friend - it was a weekly refill. Lekat kerusi feel is very tempting.

In the end he took out the set and now it's with another friend of mine in his Accord. I don't know if he kept it there or not but that was his daily drive. Oh and btw, the NOS did havoc to my friends Wira internals. Pistons were burnt crispy on the top side and the piston ring wear was terrible. It really kills the internals and halves or quarters the life span of your engine.

Anyway, lesson learnt is if you're gonna spend money installing a NOS kit for your daily drive and have shitloads of money hiding under your bed, go ahead! Install it! Instant gratification!

If you don't have shitloads of money, suggest you spend it on a FI kit or getting a bigger turbo for bigger kicks.
told ya its expensive :biggrin:

and yes, it's a type force induction.. NOS provide more oxygen to d engine.. same like turbo & sc.. but different method..

Turbo : Mechanically compress air using exhaust gas

Supercharge : Mechanically compress air using belt

Nitrous oxide system : Chemically compress air using its chemical properties

and u need forged internals to use any of d above.. no excuses.. or else..

Gudluck :burnout:

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oh.. about d legal matter..

ANY MODIFICATION OF ANY KIND TO A STOCK CAR IS ILLEGAL.. (that's include a open pod air filter)

unless u can sweet talk ur way out with d JPJ officers

Gudluck :burnout:
 
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told ya its expensive :biggrin:

and yes, it's a type force induction.. NOS provide more oxygen to d engine.. same like turbo & sc.. but different method..

Turbo : Mechanically compress air using exhaust gas

Supercharge : Mechanically compress air using belt

Nitrous oxide system : Chemically compress air using its chemical properties

and u need forged internals to use any of d above.. no excuses.. or else..

Gudluck :burnout:

---------- Post added at 10:47 AM ---------- 6 hour anti-bump limit - Previous post was at 10:40 AM ----------

oh.. about d legal matter..

ANY MODIFICATION OF ANY KIND TO A STOCK CAR IS ILLEGAL.. (that's include a open pod air filter)

unless u can sweet talk ur way out with d JPJ officers

Gudluck :burnout:
Yes, NOS is chemical forced induction, also nicknamed turbo in a bottle.
Btw about using the forged internals, wouldn't it depend an how much power boost you're putting into the engine? If relatively low (maybe say 30% power increase or so), then can still use stock internals, no? CMIIW though coz I'm very newbie on forced induction.

As for the legality, if say you install such bolt-on kit (turbo/SC/NOS) then afterwards you want to sell-off the car, would it pass puspakom inspection? Or you need to demod it first?
 

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Yes, NOS is chemical forced induction, also nicknamed turbo in a bottle.
Btw about using the forged internals, wouldn't it depend an how much power boost you're putting into the engine? If relatively low (maybe say 30% power increase or so), then can still use stock internals, no? CMIIW though coz I'm very newbie on forced induction.

As for the legality, if say you install such bolt-on kit (turbo/SC/NOS) then afterwards you want to sell-off the car, would it pass puspakom inspection? Or you need to demod it first?
I wouldn't say NOS is a low boost setup.. Once u got a lot of oxygen in d engine, ur ECU will detect it tru oxygen sensor in ur exhaust & it will maximise fuel injected in ur engine..

Usually NA use a wet system meaning the NOS system itself has another set of fuel injector to support a surge of oxygen inside d engine to make sure d engine won't have a lean AFR

Furthermore, usually NA engine has a high compression ratio thus making it unsuitable for NOS

I can talk about this all night long.. But i got to sleep too

Long story short, if u r thinking of getting a NOS.. Forged internals n turbocharged ur engine 1st

Don't repeat other people mistake.. Search d net.. Lots of information out there

Gudluck :burnout:
 

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izzo, your fren must be using nos with more then 50hp increment.....i will be using 35hp, the lowest fyi.... and should not always on the button,sabar je la even when kena potong by kancil when i speed at 170kmh today :bawling:

and again all bro tqvm for your sharing, and again i need to say i kinda boring with turbo..lol ... pull is of course addictive but just feel like retiring and do some really silent killer (even now my car silent macam stock car and stock exterior also)... and the nitrous kit i put should be 35hp and maybe most of the time, used as car show material only:biggrin::biggrin: