4G93T or 4G63T ????? for Wira n Putra

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Hi to all sifu....i wan to post this thread on behalf of my 2 frends. K. any Proton sifu running with GSR or evo engine...pls give some advice...

This Wira n Putra have decide to swap Turbo engine....but they still confuse wit gsr n evo. 1st of all they have done so many things at their car..ultra racing complete package, GAB SS series, Autofoam complete, 17" wheels with 205/40 tyre. So their mechanic said, "u have done so many things n have solid handling ride, y dont put evo's engine rather than GSR engine?"

So any sifu can give advice, which engine is suitable for them? 1 is wira 1.5 chassis n putra 1.8 chassis...my 2 frends stil confuse .... any sifu plss advice.... :adore::adore::adore::adore:
 
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Hi to all sifu....i wan to post this thread on behalf of my 2 frends. K. any Proton sifu running with GSR or evo engine...pls give some advice...

This Wira n Putra have decide to swap Turbo engine....but they still confuse wit gsr n evo. 1st of all they have done so many things at their car..ultra racing complete package, GAB SS series, Autofoam complete, 17" wheels with 205/40 tyre. So their mechanic said, "u have done so many things n have solid handling ride, y dont put evo's engine rather than GSR engine?"

So any sifu can give advice, which engine is suitable for them? 1 is wira 1.5 chassis n putra 1.6 chassis...my 2 frends stil confuse .... any sifu plss advice.... :adore::adore::adore::adore:
Putra 1.6 chasis??:confused::hmmmm:
better go for evo laa.mod abit can get mor power/hp edy...:love:
 

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best bet is gsr even though the halfcut expensive n less power. cos its straightforward. no need to find special runner to get the engine conversion endorsed...
 

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depends on ur choice la bro..if u chasing a HP..better put evo...if u want comfort smooth ride better choose gsr.. but i never heard of putra 1.6.. if its putra 1.8 i recommend EVO la bro.. thinking masak2 bro :proud:
 

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your friend 1.5 can upgrade to 1.8 (either 4g93t (GSR), mivec 1.8, or 4g93p (putra, sgti, wira1.8)
putra can upgrade to (GSR, mivec 1.8, evo(4g63t) can but u need extra $$$ to endorse....

evo vs gsr
the 1st 100m gsr will win cos engine is lighter, but after 100m, evo will overtake. cos of its extra power.......so if u are using gse & wana drag against evo, race only 100m, if more than that u will lose..hehe...
 

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what i feel the current gsr also quite power edi...continue where he left off in modding, keep upgrading til u prolly can follow a converted evo...instead of waste money swap have to re-do wiring,tuning,endorsing...
 

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dont forget the ori 4g63 is meant for galant vr4, which is a huge monster, heavy and AWD. An answer to WRC, not normal road going or compete for 100m.

but 2000cc turbo is definitely alot of fun than a 1800cc.....and 4g63 engine block is ALOT durable than 4g93
 

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go for gsr less hassle then...but if u had plan ot upgrade in the future go for evo...xtra aftermarket stuff...
 

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opsss sorry bro....its putra 1.8....yesterday feel sleepy n silap press loooo.....hehehehe.

yah bro i tink 4G63T is the best choice for their car coz when i drive their car, i feel why their car more rigid n solid ( feel cemburu wit their cars loo ).if put GSR, later have to mod alot to catch up with other turbo cars in road. How bout the handling after convert EVO engine bro? got any disadvantage? how many of u riding evo engine in their wira or any other proton car. pls do comment the disadvantage n advantage coz my frend is just 19 years old n still lack in knowledge.

Ok. bro's wan to ask for my car, i wan to put sunroof for my wira. how much does it cost usually? is that got any disadvantage?
 

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normally u dont always push the limits in the corners (coz most of us treasure lives), and most of the time u might just want to floor n ur body sticks onto the seat.

ask no more, 4G63T is the way to go. I believe putra 1.8 go to 2.0 turbo have no problems. I sat inside a satria 4G63T rojak evo1, it out puts 320whp, n the feeling similar to playing computer games, surreal acceleration.

i believe u wont regret on the 4G63t. bigger displacement always wins no matter what, and u dont reli have to upgrade when u crave for more, unlike 4G93T which is underpowered if u ask me. However it's up to ur own choice.

about the sunroof, find a reputable one, remember to change good rubber sealing n u should have no problems. A good sunroof job will cost 1000-1300.
 

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Evo wanna endos also can wat use 4g67 block laa.the most important is if u wanna upgrade,ther r many aftermaket perf parts/stuff out ther...
evo engine in a wira or putra handling no problem la depend on the driver skill la.hehe...
if install sunroof need to endos rite...change the whole roof no problem but the cut and mod into ur curent roof maybe will bocor if not mod properly.beware,find a profesional.hehe...:biggrin:
 

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k. wahhh sunroof cost 1K++. wher i should get complete sunroof for my wira bro? does body shop install sunRoof ????. anybody know any hole to approve 1.5 wira for 4G63T. our location JB, Pasir Gudang.

bro, after approve with 4G67 block, can it change to 4G63 block again? hehehehehe..

wat is the difference between GSR biasa n GSR RS? My frend told me dat if GSR combine with Mivec Head, can get more torque n power...true ar? explain plsss...
 

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k. wahhh sunroof cost 1K++. wher i should get complete sunroof for my wira bro? does body shop install sunRoof ????. anybody know any hole to approve 1.5 wira for 4G63T. our location JB, Pasir Gudang.

bro, after approve with 4G67 block, can it change to 4G63 block again? hehehehehe..

wat is the difference between GSR biasa n GSR RS? My frend told me dat if GSR combine with Mivec Head, can get more torque n power...true ar? explain plsss...
Becoz take out the front & rear windscreen to install the whole roof thats y 1k++...
just use the 4g67 block with 2L intenal laa...only the shell is 1.8 maa...hehe...
better find a runner ther if want a easier job...
the diffrnt between gsr & rs spec as i know the turbo,intercooler,bodypart,meter & ecu diffrnt...
correct me if wrong...tq...
Now a dyz no ppl using stock machine laa.all mod here mod ther.its ur own recipe depend on ur taste..hehe...
 

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sunroof ?? nice..no disadvantage i think..but like kelvin said..usually it will bocor..and jpj also love to see it if u not endore ur sunroof :rolleyes:
bout the handling.. i think u should not worried if ur not get rid the speed cut coz mine 1.6 body using evo 2.0 handling still ok when reach 180 :proud:

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Now a dyz no ppl using stock machine laa.all mod here mod ther.its ur own recipe depend on ur taste..hehe...
hahaha...ekot u punya suka la..ada org suka mkn pedas ma..ada org suke manis...
 

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tUrBiKss_pRoToN_vR4 >>>> bro did u satisfied wit power.... did u done any chassis welding or stitching for ur car? my mechanic said its not necessary..
 

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i will go for 63t, so you won't regret in future... too bad i can't get it endorsed so i go for 92 only...
 

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normally easy way to go 2.0 on proton is use 4G67T

technically is endorsed as 1.8 but running 2.0 stuff...
 

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Bro 4g93 is baby mechine ,cant do high horse power, whever spent a lot money.....
4g63 is monster mechine ,easy do high horse power, but spent a lot money
 

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k. wahhh sunroof cost 1K++. wher i should get complete sunroof for my wira bro? does body shop install sunRoof ????. anybody know any hole to approve 1.5 wira for 4G63T. our location JB, Pasir Gudang.

bro, after approve with 4G67 block, can it change to 4G63 block again? hehehehehe..

wat is the difference between GSR biasa n GSR RS? My frend told me dat if GSR combine with Mivec Head, can get more torque n power...true ar? explain plsss...
Wow u want to swap the gsr head wit mivec??ask uncle zainal la maybe he can guide u to 400hp pluss...:proud:
 

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tUrBiKss_pRoToN_vR4 >>>> bro did u satisfied wit power.... did u done any chassis welding or stitching for ur car? my mechanic said its not necessary..
not satisfied wit its stock engine..hav to mod litle some more for satisfied bro..im using it about 3 years with 1.6 wira body 1996..no prob with chasis yet and didnt do the welding or stiching..but u must have a good absorber for smooth and comfort drive..
 

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Mitsu oledy claim tat wat...
mitsu lancer gsr => 4g93t 1.8
mitsu lancer "EVOLUTION" =>4g63t 2.0
wat do evolution mean??try dictionary then u'll knw...hehe...

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belilah barangan original... wa langgar sikit je kot dah barai bumper...tapi sini cerite chasis la thaisong :thefinger:
No sini citer 4g93 or 4g63 terbaek nk masok kat wira & putra.haha...:rofl:
wi-R or wiVo..haha...:rofl:
 

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Could your car chasis handle the power of Evo engine? Even with my GSR engine, my legs will start to shake when I drive >200km/h on the highway. GSR underpower, are you kidding me? There is also GSR that has >320hp..it depends on how we mod mah :P I have also heard a modified Kancil (KL area) 'tapau' a GSR in 0~400m..so, there is no limit when it comes to modification...if you had the $$$, you could do so many wonderful things to your car.

Well, there is a limitation in GSR though, no doubt about it and if compared to EVO, definitely EVO has a better advantage in terms of CC but before you decide anything, need to consider the maintenance cost, fuel consumption, spare parts, JPJ approval, what kinda ride that you want,...

The sunroof thing, better think twice... I have it in my ride as well...most of the time, water will go inside my car...headache already.
 

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Could your car chasis handle the power of Evo engine? Even with my GSR engine, my legs will start to shake when I drive >200km/h on the highway. GSR underpower, are you kidding me? There is also GSR that has >320hp..it depends on how we mod mah :P I have also heard a modified Kancil (KL area) 'tapau' a GSR in 0~400m..so, there is no limit when it comes to modification...if you had the $$$, you could do so many wonderful things to your car.

Well, there is a limitation in GSR though, no doubt about it and if compared to EVO, definitely EVO has a better advantage in terms of CC but before you decide anything, need to consider the maintenance cost, fuel consumption, spare parts, JPJ approval, what kinda ride that you want,...

The sunroof thing, better think twice... I have it in my ride as well...most of the time, water will go inside my car...headache already.
evo can high boost more than gsr... hehe:love:.. if u choose evo , the most important thing, there a lot performance parts.. n also cheap a bit..
 

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RM1k+++ for sunroof???
u guys mean cut the current roof n fit in the sunroof izzit???
i got mine for RM2k++ wif installation wei....
but then change the whole roof la....

as for GSR or EVO.....
personal preference....
like wat other bros said...
if wanna use evo...can endorse wif 4g61 or 4g67....

n handling wif evo engine inside....
not a problem...
at least for daily drive...
highway go max oso around 160kmh...gear ratio too short edi....engine screemin like mad...
haven test in track yet....
 

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faced the same dilemma also what to chose between two last 2004..
4g63 was my choice.. never regret..
from the beginning i don't have to think about upgrading turbine ka, injector ka, ecu ka, wiring ka..
all standard stock until now..
(of course la kena tapau dengan mivec gsr:biggrin:).. but that's okay..
i've got plenty of time to upgrade.. i'll do it slowly.. and i know how far it can go..

it has been years..and i'm still satisfy..:proud:
 
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4g63t all the way...luckily i found ZTH before converting last year...best decision ive made so far...hahaha...now all of my fwns who converted to 93t have spent a lot of $$$ just to match my "stock" hp...imagine what will happen if i spent the same amount of RM's as they did :wavey::smokin:
 

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better put EVO la bro...the diff from the halfcut price can pay runner to endorsed to 2.0 edi...

diff for roadtax price only RMxx.xx only...
 

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opsss sorry bro....its putra 1.8....yesterday feel sleepy n silap press loooo.....hehehehe.

yah bro i tink 4G63T is the best choice for their car coz when i drive their car, i feel why their car more rigid n solid ( feel cemburu wit their cars loo ).if put GSR, later have to mod alot to catch up with other turbo cars in road. How bout the handling after convert EVO engine bro? got any disadvantage? how many of u riding evo engine in their wira or any other proton car. pls do comment the disadvantage n advantage coz my frend is just 19 years old n still lack in knowledge.

Ok. bro's wan to ask for my car, i wan to put sunroof for my wira. how much does it cost usually? is that got any disadvantage?
im running 4G63T...satria GTI chassis...the handling is good for me...as long ur fren absorber is good and LSD gearbox...
 

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Yah. 4G63T is the best.... how bout using adjustable suspension ( GAB SS SERIES ) !!! my frend decide to swap evo3 spring rate into thier adjustable...is that still ok...now i tink their car no more comfort alredy, damn hard.

Ok for my car Proton Wira . wat else should be consider in terms of chassis or handling. I have put complete ultra racing bars, going to do autofoam....wat else got? i tink maybe i wan to swap 4G63T engine. TodAy I got see in Plus Highway, 1 Subaru chasing a Wira in highway. The Wira is yellow color, they pass me "piiiiungggggg" when my car doing 190km/h. i sudah MaLU redy lah......haishhhhh
 

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during finding the half cut better consider which come with adjusterble,
or at least lsd g.box..yes u had to add up some $$ but sourching after
install u halfcut will involve $$ again and time consuming..btr do it rite
in the first place.
 

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agree wif trinityblood...
normally half cut dat comes wif lsd n adjustables will hav some other goodies as well....
if budget allows...get everythin 1 shot.....
 

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its not easy to find...
even if can find...the price tag will b quite crazy depends on the amount of goodies....