BUGATTI VEYRON in Johor Bahru

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looks like this BUGATTI just shipped over from its factory..
 

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its our money lolll
god damn right...our money
it's not how much every single of us contributed, but the money contributed by the whole rakyat malaysia matters!..
Are u a johorean? if not don't talk anything that u don't know! please study about johor royalty history first bro

IT is not often that one's generosity is questioned. I feel duty-bound to shed light to prevent jaundiced criticisms on Sultan Ibrahim Ibni Almarhum Sultan Iskandar.
His kind gesture in presenting high-powered vehicles to the police is nothing new but an extension of the caring attitude which is the hallmark of Johor rulers.

Lest we forget, his father the late Sultan Iskandar had presented the police with Rolls Royce and BMW cars and motorcycles for escort duty. The vehicles were purchased from their own pockets and not a sen from the government. I was privy to the purchase of the Holden cars in Sydney, Australia, where Sultan Ibrahim paid by credit card.


Although the government provided an official car every five years, Sultan Iskandar did not opt for the privilege. He was so concerned about public funds that he was willing to sacrifice his coronation ceremony. Instead the fund was used for the benefit of his rakyat.

History has proven the wealth of the Johor rulers was built on determination, ingenuity, and a bit of luck. When Temenggong Ibrahim became the ruler of Johor in 1826, his only tangible asset was his father's pension.

Johor then was an uninhabited jungle more of a liability than an asset. The Temenggong, burdened with the task of rebuilding the family's political prestige, needed labour and capital to develop Johor. He had neither. But luck was on his side.


In 1843, gutta percha (Blanco palaquin) was found in Johor. Scientists had discovered the latex like sap could be used for insulating transoceanic telegraph cables and the making of surgical gloves and chemical apparatus. The means by which the Temenggong first filled his treasury was the trading monopoly in gutta percha.

One year later, Chinese pepper and gambier planters began settling in Johor. They moved from Singapore and Riau to Johor to escape organised triads, misuse of opium and indebtedness.

Gambier (Uncara gambier) was used as a tanning and dyeing agent and exported to China. The Temenggong embarked on an innovative enterprise.


Together with the Chinese, he planned for a commercial development of the products by bringing more land under cultivation and producing a reliable source of profit.

Historian Carl Trocki noted the Temenggong became the richest Malay in the world. With the newly acquired wealth he was able to organise a form of government in Johor.

Through the Kangchu and Surat Sungei system Sultan Abu Bakar was able to increase the area and production to meet the rising world demand for pepper and gambier.

He, too, had his fair share of good luck in the shape of technological advances like the opening of the Suez Canal in 1869 and telegraphic connection between London and Singapore in 1871 which was a boon to international trade.

The period between 1874 and 1885, saw Johor at the peak of its wealth and power. Sultan Abu Bakar introduced innovations and technology including establishing a modern system of administration, attracting foreign investments, and increasing the welfare of his subjects by providing schools and hospitals.

With his wealth, Sultan Abu Bakar constructed the Istana Besar in 1866.

The palace was larger than the official residence of Governor Weld in Singapore and was a physical manifestation of a show of power and independence.

He built palaces not to flaunt his wealth but for posterity and heritage. They now are standing symbols of our glorious past.

The resurgence of Johor's economy and increase in the personal wealth of its rulers occurred during the reign of Sultan Ibrahim. Rubber was first planted in Johor in 1895. Sultan Ibrahim planted 3,000 acres (1,200 ha) of rubber trees on his land. From the wealth generated he built palaces for his family.

He also built mosques at Pasir Pelangi, Air Hitam, and Tanjong Surat. Historian Datuk Mohamad Said noted that Sultan Ibrahim purchased horse carriages, horses, cars, lorries and boats from the proceeds of his rubber sale. He self-financed his numerous trips to Europe and the world.

Sultan Ismail made prudent investments of his inheritance but never forgot his responsibilities to his rakyat.

Sultan Iskandar was a firm believer of the royal wisdom of his forefathers wherein the inheritance should not be expended but instead expanded.

Through grit and determination when he was the Raja Muda, Sultan Iskandar set up various companies involved in insurance, travel, sawmilling and oil palm cultivation. The returns to the investments were more than adequate for his personal expenditure.

He contributed all his emoluments as the Yang di-Pertuan Agong to Yayasan Iskandar, a foundation that provides scholarship for specialist degrees.

On his return, he donated his emoluments as Sultan to the Yayasan Temenggong Abdul Rahman to provide scholarship to Johor students to institutions of higher learning. The present ruler has declared his intention to set up a similar foundation financed from his monthly emoluments.


As was done by his father the acquisition of personal assets by Sultan Ibrahim is financed from his own coffers.

He was a shrewd businessman before he ascended the throne. Just like his father he provides for passage and expenses to deserving palace officials and others to perform the Haj. He contributes personally to the annual Kembara Mahkota programme. The gift of assets to the police is yet another act of benevolence initiated by his forefathers.

*Datuk Abdul Rahim Ramli is the secretary of the Johor Council of Royal Court



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BNR< thanks for the historical insight, i do believe that, the Ruler of Johor is one of the most successful ones out there, look at ones in other states, what a disgrace, especially the tin filled Perak once back then
 

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If u came to jb now, EDL highway is in progress & will be complete next year...
the important thing is, Sultan give some of his land at Pasir Pelangi Castle for highway construction...

We are proud as Johorean....:proud:
 

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If u came to jb now, EDL highway is in progress & will be complete next year...
the important thing is, Sultan give some of his land at Pasir Pelangi Castle for highway construction...

We are proud as Johorean....:proud:
saw TMJ's flat black satria neo there..:biggrin:

bearing the plate no: TMJ

nice.....
 

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Are u a johorean? if not don't talk anything that u don't know! please study about johor royalty history first bro

IT is not often that one's generosity is questioned. I feel duty-bound to shed light to prevent jaundiced criticisms on Sultan Ibrahim Ibni Almarhum Sultan Iskandar.
His kind gesture in presenting high-powered vehicles to the police is nothing new but an extension of the caring attitude which is the hallmark of Johor rulers.

Lest we forget, his father the late Sultan Iskandar had presented the police with Rolls Royce and BMW cars and motorcycles for escort duty. The vehicles were purchased from their own pockets and not a sen from the government. I was privy to the purchase of the Holden cars in Sydney, Australia, where Sultan Ibrahim paid by credit card.


Although the government provided an official car every five years, Sultan Iskandar did not opt for the privilege. He was so concerned about public funds that he was willing to sacrifice his coronation ceremony. Instead the fund was used for the benefit of his rakyat.

History has proven the wealth of the Johor rulers was built on determination, ingenuity, and a bit of luck. When Temenggong Ibrahim became the ruler of Johor in 1826, his only tangible asset was his father's pension.

Johor then was an uninhabited jungle more of a liability than an asset. The Temenggong, burdened with the task of rebuilding the family's political prestige, needed labour and capital to develop Johor. He had neither. But luck was on his side.


In 1843, gutta percha (Blanco palaquin) was found in Johor. Scientists had discovered the latex like sap could be used for insulating transoceanic telegraph cables and the making of surgical gloves and chemical apparatus. The means by which the Temenggong first filled his treasury was the trading monopoly in gutta percha.

One year later, Chinese pepper and gambier planters began settling in Johor. They moved from Singapore and Riau to Johor to escape organised triads, misuse of opium and indebtedness.

Gambier (Uncara gambier) was used as a tanning and dyeing agent and exported to China. The Temenggong embarked on an innovative enterprise.


Together with the Chinese, he planned for a commercial development of the products by bringing more land under cultivation and producing a reliable source of profit.

Historian Carl Trocki noted the Temenggong became the richest Malay in the world. With the newly acquired wealth he was able to organise a form of government in Johor.

Through the Kangchu and Surat Sungei system Sultan Abu Bakar was able to increase the area and production to meet the rising world demand for pepper and gambier.

He, too, had his fair share of good luck in the shape of technological advances like the opening of the Suez Canal in 1869 and telegraphic connection between London and Singapore in 1871 which was a boon to international trade.

The period between 1874 and 1885, saw Johor at the peak of its wealth and power. Sultan Abu Bakar introduced innovations and technology including establishing a modern system of administration, attracting foreign investments, and increasing the welfare of his subjects by providing schools and hospitals.

With his wealth, Sultan Abu Bakar constructed the Istana Besar in 1866.

The palace was larger than the official residence of Governor Weld in Singapore and was a physical manifestation of a show of power and independence.

He built palaces not to flaunt his wealth but for posterity and heritage. They now are standing symbols of our glorious past.

The resurgence of Johor's economy and increase in the personal wealth of its rulers occurred during the reign of Sultan Ibrahim. Rubber was first planted in Johor in 1895. Sultan Ibrahim planted 3,000 acres (1,200 ha) of rubber trees on his land. From the wealth generated he built palaces for his family.

He also built mosques at Pasir Pelangi, Air Hitam, and Tanjong Surat. Historian Datuk Mohamad Said noted that Sultan Ibrahim purchased horse carriages, horses, cars, lorries and boats from the proceeds of his rubber sale. He self-financed his numerous trips to Europe and the world.

Sultan Ismail made prudent investments of his inheritance but never forgot his responsibilities to his rakyat.

Sultan Iskandar was a firm believer of the royal wisdom of his forefathers wherein the inheritance should not be expended but instead expanded.

Through grit and determination when he was the Raja Muda, Sultan Iskandar set up various companies involved in insurance, travel, sawmilling and oil palm cultivation. The returns to the investments were more than adequate for his personal expenditure.

He contributed all his emoluments as the Yang di-Pertuan Agong to Yayasan Iskandar, a foundation that provides scholarship for specialist degrees.

On his return, he donated his emoluments as Sultan to the Yayasan Temenggong Abdul Rahman to provide scholarship to Johor students to institutions of higher learning. The present ruler has declared his intention to set up a similar foundation financed from his monthly emoluments.


As was done by his father the acquisition of personal assets by Sultan Ibrahim is financed from his own coffers.

He was a shrewd businessman before he ascended the throne. Just like his father he provides for passage and expenses to deserving palace officials and others to perform the Haj. He contributes personally to the annual Kembara Mahkota programme. The gift of assets to the police is yet another act of benevolence initiated by his forefathers.

*Datuk Abdul Rahim Ramli is the secretary of the Johor Council of Royal Court



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While I do not want to criticize the new Sultan nor his "generosity," I have been close to, and so have certain members of my family, the present sultan back when he was a Tengku to know his sadistic BUT sometimes generous character in person. He is not a bad person, but you can't expect the rich to be generous to every single passerby just because he has money, right? So they are like any other person..they spend when they want, and they give when they want.

Compared to some businessmen who are far richer and far stingier, I do think that DESPITE their "beli-barang-melampau-cum-show-off" attitude, they are also a moderately generous ruling class of people. Furthermore, I must emphasize, this Sultan, although by any other means, is "blue" in blood, he does not share the same "blue-blooded" views and characters as the really ZALIM, EVIL royal families of westernized countries. Those who follow closely events of the world and can read between the lines will know what I'm talking about.

But in all fairness, I have to say that the article written above is more or less propaganda.
 

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While I do not want to criticize the new Sultan nor his "generosity," I have been close to, and so have certain members of my family, the present sultan back when he was a Tengku to know his sadistic BUT sometimes generous character in person. He is not a bad person, but you can't expect the rich to be generous to every single passerby just because he has money, right? So they are like any other person..they spend when they want, and they give when they want.

Compared to some businessmen who are far richer and far stingier, I do think that DESPITE their "beli-barang-melampau-cum-show-off" attitude, they are also a moderately generous ruling class of people. Furthermore, I must emphasize, this Sultan, although by any other means, is "blue" in blood, he does not share the same "blue-blooded" views and characters as the really ZALIM, EVIL royal families of westernized countries. Those who follow closely events of the world and can read between the lines will know what I'm talking about.

But in all fairness, I have to say that the article written above is more or less propaganda.
LONG LIVE THE KING...... At least he is capable of landing a Veyron on our soil.... Who would do that? The far richer bussinessman??? Not a chance... Businessman alway think like this, "6 million... i can do this, I can do that.... therefore I can get richer..."
 

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Only the God knows everything. Human class somehow would deliver the results they want. They dictate the result. but for ordinary human, lower class one, results dictate them. Pretty clear for any comparison, eh?
 

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Only the God knows everything. Human class somehow would deliver the results they want. They dictate the result. but for ordinary human, lower class one, results dictate them. Pretty clear for any comparison, eh?
this is the problem for our people...sigh!:slug::slug:
 

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Duit orang biar laa duit die..duit kau sendiri kasi usaha laa nak dapat!! sibuk nak justify duit org lain buat apa?..org Malaysia tak boleh tengok orang lain senang...PHD!

what tax? tax mmg kena bayar..so bayar laa..ko igt bayar singgit tax boleh buat jalan hiway depan umah kau ke? bayar tax ciput pon bising..kalau korang kaya pon korang akan spend duit mcm org kaya laa..org lain akan kutuk ko pulak! circle of life..wtf!

keep your mouth shut and start earn more n do your work..pay your tax, pay your petrol..save more money to buy good cars for yourself! stop complaining...
 

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If u came to jb now, EDL highway is in progress & will be complete next year...
the important thing is, Sultan give some of his land at Pasir Pelangi Castle for highway construction...

We are proud as Johorean....:proud:
The recent developments and public works carried out in Johor Bahru, for the benefit of the rakyat, are largely due to the efforts of the Menteri Besar of Johor - Dato' Abdul Ghani Othman. This is well known among Johoreans.
 
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